Sorry to chime in and i don´t know the Vitus, but one of the strengths of the TAD MK2500 mk2 is speed. I also do have the combination Zu Druid VI driven by Atma M60, which are known for speed and the 2500 Mk2 is as fast driving the TAD CR1.
Amplification options with TAD speakers
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Thank you @olivier. I just want to be sure the TAD Amp sounds rich and full enough. And not too clean and bright.
Well i think this is a matter of taste. The 2500mkii is very neutral. i tested different preamps and Dacs and the 2500 showed all differences. i also tried the CR1 with different amps and on my opinion the body also comes with power. If the amp cannot drive the load, the low end suffers. But the ME1´s load is not as difficult as the CR1.
Someone wrote that the M1000 would be a bit leaner, but i don´t know them.
Someone wrote that the M1000 would be a bit leaner, but i don´t know them.
Thanks. my Vitus has 300W per channel in 8 ohms. So I'm not lacking drive. I've read too about the M1000 being leaner than the M2500.
TAD is not too clean or bright but generally speaking more neutral/transparent/revealing systems (like TAD) are more sensitive to setup/acoustics/records/AC quality…
It’s clear, thanks. I just wonder if we can say TAD amplification is better with TAD speakers than Vitus, at same product line level. Perhaps hard to objectively assess as it’s in the eye of the beholder.
I don't know Vitus + TAD so can't help to assess the differences but I can share my experience with my TAD speakers (CR1tx & ME1) in 2 systems with 2 different setups.
The Me1 are driven by a DartZeel integrated amp (CTH-8550) and there is enough power for a small room (20/25m2) with 330 watts RMS @4Ω. Sound is fast, quite dynamic, detailed and highly musical with a slight but beautiful coloration. Very good synergy between those 2 brands on my opinion. Simple and strait-forward setup. I love it.
The CR1tx are driven by 2 TAD M1000 (in bi-amping) which are highly neutral, not cold at all, super fast and detailed. Preamp is also TAD (C600) so no synergy problems. The M2500 are now discontinued and replaced by the M1000 which are more versatile when you want to bi-amp your system.
My take is that the M1000 (500W @4Ω) will perform at the level of your preamp - they have an input gain Gain of 29.5 dB like all the TAD Power Amps so it's important to find the right preamp partner (symmetric and Gain around 12dB like TAD preamp).
Thank you very much for the useful insights. I have a Music First Audio passive preamp and the manufacturer believes there will be no compatibility issues with TAD amp.
Yes the relation between output impedance of your source and the input impedance of the TAD amp seems to be ok
I bought the TAD M1000 and I hope to receive it by the end of next week. Curiously enough, I’ve listed my Vitus for sale several weeks ago and got no requests.
Congrats!!! You will love it I'm sure
Re your Vitus be patient... Sometimes it depends on the number of listings available
Keep us posted when you get your M1000!
Thank you! I'm selling the Vitus and the MSB discrete on audio markt and in Europe I'm the only one selling, not to mention here in Paris. Let's see. I'm waiting to clean up my gear to get an Innuos Zenith and a Moon LP810 to complete the chain.
I'm in Paris too - small world
Innuos Zenith seems to be a very good music server indeed
I had Pat at Steve McCormack Audio build an amp for me. I asked him to build leaning towards the warm side because I love the tube sound but did not want to deal with tubes. He nailed it. I am really happy with the sound.
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Hello Stef, unfortunately the courier used for the shipping didn’t consider local bank holiday. Long story short no amp. I’ll travel extensively next weeks and I hope to get it by the end of the month. The seller insisted on shipping on pallet and I’m in the hands of a unorganised forwarder. Much frustration.
Sorry to hear that. Hope you can enjoy your new amp when you will be back to Paris.
Sometimes I also buy through traders and they send on pallet using forwarders as schenker and it can be very challenging!
Keep us posted.
TAD M1000 arrived yesterday. Beautiful machine. Unfortunately the Music First Audio passive preamp doesn’t let the amp deliver as I expected.
The Vitus Ri101 delivers a much richer, fuller and engaging sound. The TAD sounds flat in comparison. And for some reasons the turntable makes a terrible noise when playing through the TAD amp.
I have tried going straight from the MSB Discrete to the M1000. I have to say it’s nothing special. The amp is an ex demo so no need to burn in.
Now I have to decide if I going for the C2000 or the C1000 preamp. I can get the C2000 at a much better price as an ex demo.
Any advice?
Preamp & Power Amp matching is sometimes a mystery... I had an Aries Cerat Incito-S which has never been accepted by my TAD Power Amp. The C1000 preamp is certainly excellent but if you can have a very good price for a C2500 I would not hesitate (you can even try its internal DAC with your MSB discrete)
I don't know if you are using XLR connections but the main issue that I have met with TAD is when other gears are using pseudo balanced outputs... TAD design is fully balanced and fully isolated from home ground (earth pin in the IEC inlet is missing).
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