Best contemporary speaker under $100k for Lamm ML2.x type amplifiers?

[Addicted to hifi]

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Zingali 20 EVO 1.2

Love the looks of them and would love to hear a pair but these are not available in my country.

 

[Argonaut]

Zingali 20 EVO 1.2

 

[Addicted to hifi]

Nice.

 

[Argonaut]

A friend has a pair of the Overture 3B which play rather well, ( not his system) apologies to the OP for the thread drift .

 

[tima]

apologies to the OP for the thread drift .

no problemo

 

[Addicted to hifi]

A friend has a pair of the Overture 3B which play rather well, ( not his system) apologies to the OP for the thread drift .

Very nice.

 

[orfeo_monteverdi]

The [Aries Cerat] Symphonia certainly looks interesting, though likely not of my price range.

[please excuse my bad English]
Then consider auditioning the Stenheim Alumine Three. Designed by an ex-Goldmund team, fully built in Switzerland ($30.000 ?).
Much less expensive than your current loudspeakers, but you could prefer them.

I prefer the Alumine Two (2 ways, monitor) to the mid-treble head of many high-end loudspeakers. I told that to Michael Fremer, who then visited Stenheim's room in Munich with his vinyls to listen to the Alumine Three. But it is The Absolute Sound which caught them first for a review.
I have never heard the Three, so this may seem a bold suggestion, but I am pretty sure they could beguile you (given your tastes). They have indeed a horn touch, crossed with an electrostat quality, and they deliver body and weight if the electronics makes a good match. The midrange's expressivity of the Two's is outstanding. Their global expressiveness is nearly HES. They are flat and do not emphasize treble. But due to the very, very high level of "lifelikeness" and detail I heard with the Two's, maybe it is not advisable generally to listen to Stenheim speakers near or mid-field. Check that point with a dealer (probably not easy to find in the US; they are not distributed in my country). Try to bring your Lamm ("Arf !!!" - yes, I know...). IMHO, Stenheims are a reviewer's dream as they unveil the slightest change made upwards, and let the music naturally flow to the music lover's ears.

The Three is a compact, exceptionally built, and easy to drive loudspeaker that fits into real rooms, with the heart of a large horn system and touches of electrostatic transparency thrown in for good measure. At, or near the top of finest compact loudspeakers available today, and one that joins the small club of products I’d recommend going out of your way to experience. (link to TAS)

NB: the (somewhat weird) red touch around the tweeter is optional, I think.

Spec-wise, with the Stenheim, you would gain in sensitivity and ease of drive (but for your Lamm, the latter point does probably not matter). But you would lose a bit in deep bass.

Keep us posted ;-)

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WILSON Alexia 2
Sensitivity 89 dB @ 1 watt @ 1 meter @ 1 kHz
Nominal Impedance 4 ohms / minimum 2.54 ohms @ 85 Hz
Frequency Response 19 Hz – 32 kHz +/- 3 dB Room Average
System Weight Per Channel 260 lbs (117.93 kg)

STENHEIM Alumine Three
Type: 3½-way dynamic loudspeaker
Driver complement: 2x 8? woofers; 1x 5¼” neodymium magnet midrange; 1x 1? neodymium magnet tweeter
Frequency response: 32Hz–35kHz
Sensitivity: 93dB, half space
Nominal impedance: 8 ohms (5 ohms minimum)
SPL max: 115dB
Power handling: 150W RMS, 300W peak
Recommended amplifier: 10W to 200W
Dimensions: 9.8? x 41.3? x 13?
Weight: 154 lbs. each

 

[steve59]

Acoustic zen crescendo II

 

[PeterA]

You could consider the reproduction Vitavox CN191. They are copies of the speakers I have which are from the late 1950s. I have not heard them and apparently they sound slightly different from what I have, but they are in your budget, they have the same drivers that are in mine, and I think they are 105 dB, 16 ohms. Mine are a perfect match for the Lamm ML2 SET. Here is a recent Mono/Stereo write up: https://www.monoandstereo.com/2019/07/vitavox-cn191-speakers.html?m=1

 

[the sound of Tao]

You could consider the reproduction Vitavox CN191. They are copies of the speakers I have which are from the late 1950s. I have not heard them and apparently they sound slightly different from what I have, but they are in your budget, they have the same drivers that are in mine, and I think they are 105 dB, 16 ohms. Mine are a perfect match for the Lamm ML2 SET. Here is a recent Mono/Stereo write up: https://www.monoandstereo.com/2019/07/vitavox-cn191-speakers.html?m=1

Loving the bass bins… very nice!! Thanks Peter.

 

[tima]

You could consider the reproduction Vitavox CN191. They are copies of the speakers I have which are from the late 1950s. I have not heard them and apparently they sound slightly different from what I have, but they are in your budget, they have the same drivers that are in mine, and I think they are 105 dB, 16 ohms. Mine are a perfect match for the Lamm ML2 SET. Here is a recent Mono/Stereo write up: https://www.monoandstereo.com/2019/07/vitavox-cn191-speakers.html?m=1

From the Latin...
Vita: Life,
Vox: Voice

Thanks Peter. I inquired about the reproduction CN191 in your Utah visit write-up - here, where you can also see David's response.

I should write to the fellow to learn if he has any speakers or distribution in the US.

Without knowing more, they are a compelling consideration. As I believe I've commented, your own accounts, and videos of your speakers in play, are delightful - and your system is an embodiment of natural sound. As best I can gauge, exactly what I'm looking for to pair with Lamm electronics. I do have the available corners on a 16' wall. And I absolutely adore the mid-century look.

The reproduction CN191 is described as constructed of Scandinavian birch plywood with walnut veneer. It is explained to me that while drivers can be replaced it is the cabinetry that is key. Original wood and construction technique and materials cannot be replaced and even modern day repairs may imperil the original sound.

Do you know the wood used in your original? Do you know of anyone who has hear the reproduction?

Based solely on looks, I am also curious about the JBL Hartsfield.

 

[tima]

consider auditioning the Stenheim Alumine Three

Thank you oliver. A few years back I heard very positive comments about the Alumine Five from Gideon Schwartz at Audio Arts. Maybe if we ever have an audio show, I'll get a chance to listen to the Three.

 

[the sound of Tao]

From the Latin...
Vita: Life,
Vox: Voice

Thanks Peter. I inquired about the reproduction CN191 in your Utah visit write-up - here, where you can also see David's response.

I should write to the fellow to learn if he has any speakers or distribution in the US.

Without knowing more, they are a compelling consideration. As I believe I've commented, your own accounts, and videos of your speakers in play, are delightful - and your system is an embodiment of natural sound. As best I can gauge, exactly what I'm looking for to pair with Lamm electronics. I do have the available corners on a 16' wall. And I absolutely adore the mid-century look.

The reproduction CN191 is described as constructed of Scandinavian birch plywood with walnut veneer. It is explained to me that while drivers can be replaced it is the cabinetry that is key. Original wood and construction technique and materials cannot be replaced and even modern day repairs may imperil the original sound.

Do you know the wood used in your original? Do you know of anyone who has hear the reproduction?

Based solely on looks, I am also curious about the JBL Hartsfield.



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+1 on the above Tim. Both the Vitas and the Hartsfields look like wonderful avenues to go down. Am a little bit hot for the Hartsfields but also a bit of best of British is very nice as well. Great choices.

 

[Addicted to hifi]

Magnapan 30.7s would have to qualify.

 

[tima]

Magnapan 30.7s would have to qualify.

Oh, can those be driven Lamm ML2.2s?

 

[christoph]

From the Latin...
Vita: Life,
Vox: Voice

Thanks Peter. I inquired about the reproduction CN191 in your Utah visit write-up - here, where you can also see David's response.

I should write to the fellow to learn if he has any speakers or distribution in the US.

Without knowing more, they are a compelling consideration. As I believe I've commented, your own accounts, and videos of your speakers in play, are delightful - and your system is an embodiment of natural sound. As best I can gauge, exactly what I'm looking for to pair with Lamm electronics. I do have the available corners on a 16' wall. And I absolutely adore the mid-century look.

The reproduction CN191 is described as constructed of Scandinavian birch plywood with walnut veneer. It is explained to me that while drivers can be replaced it is the cabinetry that is key. Original wood and construction technique and materials cannot be replaced and even modern day repairs may imperil the original sound.

Do you know the wood used in your original? Do you know of anyone who has hear the reproduction?

Based solely on looks, I am also curious about the JBL Hartsfield.



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How much are the "new" versions of the Vitavox CN191 and the JBL Hartsfield?

 

[tima]

How much are the "new" versions of the Vitavox CN191 and the JBL Hartsfield?

I don't know yet. The Hartsfield repro are from Classic Audio Loudspeakers. For those I'd look first at originals.

 

[christoph]

Magnapan 30.7s would have to qualify.

Not a chance
Maggies need a LOT of watts to come alive

 

[Addicted to hifi]

Not a chance
Maggies need a LOT of watts to come alive

Ml2.2 is 220 watts into 8 ohms and 440 into 4 ohms.is this not enough for the 30.7s.?

 

[christoph]

Ml2.2 is 220 watts into 8 ohms and 440 into 4 ohms.is this not enough for the 30.7s.?

You are confusing the Lamm M 2.2 (hybrid) with the Lamm ML 2.x 18 Watt SET in question here...

PS: The Lamm M 2.x or M 1.x hybrids might even be among the very best sounding amps capable to drive Maggies