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By Michael Thurston | AFP

Los Angeles (AFP) - Marijuana users in Colorado and Washington are counting down the hours before the western US states become the first to legalize recreational pot shops on January 1.

Blazing a trail they hope will be followed in other parts of the United States, cannabis growers and others are also rubbing their hands, while tax collectors are eyeing the revenue the newly-legalized trade will generate.
Enterprising companies are even offering marijuana tours to cash in on tourists expected to be attracted to a Netherlands-style pot culture -- including in Colorado's famous ski resorts.

"Just the novelty alone is bringing people from everywhere," said Adam Raleigh of cannabis supplier Telluride Bud Co.
"I have people driving in from Texas, Arizona, Utah... to be a part of history.

"Over the last month I have received somewhere between four to six emails a day and five to 10 phone calls a day asking all about the law and when should people plan their ski trip to go along with cannabis," he added.
Medical marijuana is already legal and regulated in 19 US states, and has been allowed in some cases for the past 20 years. And in most of them, private consumption of cannabis is not classified as a crime.

But Colorado and Washington are creating a recreational market in which local authorities will oversee growing, distribution and marketing -- all of it legal -- for people to get high just for the fun of it.

The market is huge: from $1.4 billion in medical marijuana in 2013 it will grow by 64 percent to $2.34 billion in 2014 with recreational pot added in Colorado and Washington, according to Arcview Market Research, which tracks and publishes data on the cannabis industry.
Both states legalized recreational consumption of marijuana in referendums in November last year, but new rules coming into force on January 1 allow cannabis shops.
In Colorado, famous for its Rocky Mountain ski resorts, officials this week issued 348 retail marijuana licenses including for small shops which from January 1 can sell up to 28 grams of pot to people aged 21 or older.

Washington state authorities have received applications for 3,746 marijuana business licenses, including 867 retail licenses, according to The Seattle Times newspaper, which urged caution in an editorial.
"Legalization of marijuana (is) a seismic change in drug-control policy, perhaps the biggest since the end of alcohol prohibition. Supporters and skeptics need to take a deep breath," it said.

Colorado's branch of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML) said everyone will benefit.
"It will mean jobs, tax revenue for the state and local jurisdictions, increased tourism, and a developing progressive new industry in Colorado," NORML attorney Rachel Gillette told AFP.
"It will also have an impact in that marijuana sales will be brought out of the shadows and the black market," she added.
Michael Elliott, head of the Medical Marijuana Industry Group, noted that Colorado has licensed medical marijuana businesses since 2010, but said the influx of tourists for recreational use of pot could lead to shortages.

"It's tough to know whether supply will meet demand, mainly because it's tough to know the impact of tourism on this new market," he said.
"It looks like demand will exceed supply, so I anticipate that prices in Colorado will go up ... But as time goes on, more businesses will open meaning there will be more supply," he added.
Telluride Bud Co's Raleigh compared decriminalizing pot shops to legalizing same-sex weddings, which are now allowed in more than a third of US states.
"Give it six months, and when other states see that the sky didn't fall and the revenue we are producing, I believe this will spread just like gay marriage," he said. "You just can't stop the will of the people."
 
It's about time pot became legal--just like alcohol.

Ending prohibition was a step in the right direction. This is the next step.
 
Absolutely!

It's a win-win for everybody.

Less robbery to support a high priced illegal activity, less violence, more taxes for the government, less people in jail for victimless "crimes" paid for by our tax dollars.

Let the police and government protect us from evil doers and our foreign enemies--not harmless citizens.

Therapeutic drugs will be sold in PHARMACIES and recreational drugs in . . . . . . DRUG STORES!
 
9 Things to Know Before Smoking Marijuana (Legally) in Colorado

By John Maxfield

We're only a few hours into the New Year, but one thing can be said with a high degree of certainty: 2014 will go down in history books as the year that marijuana began its official nationwide trek toward legality.

As you read this, lines have formed at hundreds of marijuana dispensaries throughout Colorado, which, along with Washington, became the first states on Wednesday to allow the sale of cannabis for recreational use. Smoking a joint is now legally indistinguishable from drinking a beer in these two states -- absent, of course, federal law.

For those of you that have decided to partake in this watershed event -- for better or for worse -- here is a list of nine things that you should know before lighting up in Colorado.

1. Is marijuana really legal in Colorado?

The answer to this is both yes and no. From a state law standpoint, it is now legal to buy, possess, and consume marijuana for recreational use in Colorado. From a federal standpoint, however, all of these activities are still illegal, as cannabis remains a Schedule 1 drug (meaning that it has "no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse").

The good news (at least for those of you interested in partaking in this newfound freedom) is that the federal government isn't likely to get involved. In August, the U.S. Department of Justice published the so-called Cole memorandum (link opens PDF), laying out eight "enforcement priorities," beyond which it will defer to state and local law enforcement agencies to "address marijuana enforcement of their own narcotics laws."

As a result, so long as you don't distribute it to minors, transport it across state lines, drive while under the influence, possess it on federal property, or run afoul of the other priorities laid out in the Cole memorandum, then it seems safe to assume that adherence to Colorado's laws (covered below) will likely shield you from legal problems.

2. Who can buy weed in Colorado?

Starting Jan. 1, anybody over the age of 21 (with a valid government-issued photo identification) can walk into a licensed dispensary and purchase marijuana.

3. Where can you buy it?

Only licensed retail dispensaries are allowed to sell marijuana in Colorado. Fear not, however, as there are a growing number of these across the state.

According to recent figures, the Marijuana Enforcement Division, the governmental agency tasked with regulating the industry, has issued 136 recreational licenses to retail stores throughout the state.

The official list of qualified retail locations is available here (link opens PDF). Additionally, here is a map of the both medical and recreational dispensaries throughout Colorado.

4. How much can you buy?

This depends on whether or not you're a Colorado resident.

If you are, then you can buy up to an ounce per visit for recreational use -- the limit is two ounces for holders of a medical marijuana card. If you aren't, then you're limited to a quarter of an ounce per visit.

Given that you could make multiple visits in a single day, in turn, the more pertinent question concerns how much you can legally possess. The answer to this question is one ounce.

5. How much does marijuana cost in Colorado?

This is likely to change around the turn of the year as the new recreational laws take effect. If demand soars as some are predicting, then the price will likely rocket higher due to limited supply.

Either way, initial estimates suggest that recreational marijuana will start out selling for between $50 and $60 per eighth of an ounce after taxes. By comparison, because medical marijuana isn't subject to the same 25% in additional excise and sales taxes, it will likely sell for a considerable discount to recreational cannabis.

6. Where can you smoke it?

As a general rule, you're allowed to consume marijuana on private, but not public, property. Beyond that, it's up to local municipalities to dictate consumption rules.

In Denver, for instance, marijuana can be consumed on private property so long as the use isn't done "openly or publicly." This precludes public transportation, schools, sporting venues, parks, playgrounds, sidewalks, and roads, among other places.

7. Can you also grow it yourself?

Yes. Adult residents of Colorado are allowed to grow up to six plants in their home. However, no more than three can be in the flowering stage at any one time, and there can be no more than 12 plants at a single residence, regardless of the number of occupants.

8. What's in it for Colorado?

The short answer is: tax revenue. In the most recent fiscal year, Colorado generated $9.1 million in retail sales tax from the sale of medical marijuana. This figure is bound to surge with the introduction of recreational sales and the additional 25% in excise and sales taxes thereon in 2014.

Beyond this, the industry generates millions of dollars every year for the state from licensing and application fees. To apply for and obtain a license to run a medical marijuana facility serving more than 500 patients, for instance, the necessary application and license fees alone approach $40,000.

9. Where does all of the legal weed come from?

Under the current laws of Colorado, all of the marijuana sold in the state must be grown there as well -- this, as a side note, follows similarly from the federal proscription on interstate distribution of controlled substances. As a result, there's a growing industry of marijuana farmers that's sprouted up throughout the state.

While the size of each operation varies -- ranging from a few hundred to tens of thousands of square feet -- the only thing they all have in common is growth. "We can't grow the stuff fast enough to sell it," a local cannabis cultivator told me during a tour of his facilities.

The Foolish bottom line

At this point, whether you agree or disagree with the decision in Colorado and Washington to legalize the sale and consumption of marijuana for recreational use, the one thing that seems certain is that this trend has only just begun.

"The only thing more addictive than illegal drugs is tax revenue," John Paul Maxfield, a Denver resident and the founder of Waste Farmers, told me.
 
Sights from Colorado pot industry's opening day

By KRISTEN WYATT | Associated Press

DENVER (AP) — The nation's first recreational pot industry opened in Colorado on Wednesday, kicking off a marijuana experiment that will be watched closely around the world. Already, it is attracting people from across the country.
Some of the sights in Denver, the Mile High City, on the historic day:

FROM THE JAILHOUSE TO THE POTHOUSE

Less than a year ago, James Aaron Ramsey was serving a brief jail sentence for pot possession. On Wednesday, the 28-year-old musician, having driven from Missouri, was among the first to legally buy weed.
He brought a guitar and strummed folk tunes for about 20 people waiting outside one dispensary for sales to begin, as light snow fell at times.
"I'm going to frame the receipt when I go home," Ramsey said with a smile. "To remind myself of what might be possible. Legal everywhere."
Others who were waiting in line shared their own pot incarceration stories over coffee and funnel cakes.
"They made me go to rehab for marijuana, but I'd get out and see all my underage friends getting drunk all the time," said 24-year-old Brandon Harris, who drove 20 hours from Blanchester, Ohio.
"I had to do pee tests, probation visits, the whole thing. Trafficking conviction. Nineteen years old. For a plant, how stupid," he said, shaking his head.

'YOUR GRANDMOTHER'S POT CONNECTION'
Tinted windows on a black limousine idling outside one Denver dispensary showed another side of the newly legal weed market — people eager to try legal marijuana, but not ready to be seen publicly buying it.
Addison Morris, owner of Rocky Mountain Mile High Tours, had 10 clients waiting in the limo who paid $295 for four hours of chauffeuring by a "marijuana concierge" who would help them choose strains and edible pot products.
"We're your grandmother's pot connection," the 63-year-old said. "We're not the hippie stoners who are going to stand in this cold and party."
Morris said she's booked through the end of February with out-of-state clients. Guests receive samples in designer bags before getting tours.
Morris said she's selling discretion. Guests are asked to leave cameras at home. They avoided the crowd at the dispensary, where younger shoppers noshed on funnel cakes and doughnuts from a food truck.
Asked if her guests wanted any of the carnival-style treats, Morris recoiled.
"Oh God no," she said. "We're going to Whole Foods for breakfast."

WILL THERE BE ENOUGH?
Not all marijuana users in Colorado are toasting the dawn of retail sales.
Some medical marijuana patients groups say they're worried about supply. That's because the retail inventory for recreational use is coming entirely from the preexisting medical inventory. Many in the industry warned patients to stock up before recreational sales began.
Laura Kriho of the Cannabis Therapy Institute said she worries prices will spike and patients will be left paying more if they're not able to grow their own.
"We hope that the focus on recreational doesn't take the focus away from patients who really need this medicine," she said.
Their fears weren't misplaced. Some recreational shops closed early Wednesday because of dwindling supply, and customers grumbled about prices going up.
For now, medical patients should have plenty of places to shop. Most of Colorado's 500 or so medical marijuana shops haven't applied to sell recreational pot.

AT LEAST THEY OPENED ON TIME

Some Green Wednesday openings were grand, with coffee and live music awaiting early shoppers. Others were more slapdash. As in, not sure until the sun went down New Year's Eve they'd have all their licensing and permitting to open.
The Clinic marked the opening of sales by turning on a Bob Marley CD and hurriedly putting out inventory.
Manager Ryan Cook didn't get clearance to open until Tuesday evening.
"Never thought we'd be able to get here, but we did it," a bleary-eyed Cook said, hustling around his shop after a long night waiting for new packaging bags that comply with new Colorado regulations.

NOT EVERYONE WAITED
Recreational sales weren't legal until Wednesday, but pot has been legal and free to share in Colorado for more than a year.
So marijuana aficionados gathered statewide to mark New Year's Eve with a group toke to count down to when sales begin at 8 a.m.
At one party, a 1920s-themed "Prohibition Is Over" gala in Denver, women wore sparkly flapper dresses and men donned suits and suspenders to gather around communal rigs to light up together.
A jazz band played, TV monitors showed "The Untouchables" and revelers gathered around a craps table and several card tables. Most of the smoking was outside, but still the air was heavy with marijuana.
"This is just pure joy," said David Earley, a 24-year-old marijuana grower form Colorado Springs. "To be able to come out and smoke publicly, it's truly amazing."

THEY BRAVED LONG LINES ...
Two hours. Three hours. Five hours.
Marijuana shoppers Wednesday paid a price for shopping on the first day — long waits. Lines snaked down the street outside most pot shops, and the waiting crowds routinely gave a little cheer when shoppers emerged, bags in hand.
"How long have we been here?" one marijuana shopper asked his buddies as they emerged from one shop. The sun was setting and the group from Olathe, Kan., hadn't yet checked into their hotel. They'd arrived at the pot shop five hours earlier.
The group was smiling, though.
"To be able to buy this legally, a much better quality than anything I could get at home, and know it's safe and OK? That's a good thing," said Chris Albrecht, a 25-year-old jazz drummer on his way to a ski vacation in Winter Park.

...AND WORSE WEATHER
Marijuana shoppers were treated to a classic Colorado winter day Wednesday — surprising warmth and sunny skies, interrupted by snow showers and intermittent bursts of frigid wind and rain.
Shoppers huddled in gear more frequently seen on ski slopes, then at times peeled off outer layers to T-shirts as they passed the time snacking on hot dogs and sharing stories about marijuana.
One of the hungry shoppers was Andre Barr, of Niles, Mich., who picked up a hot dog and shivered during a gusty stretch of his wait.
He said the mercurial weather didn't bother him a bit.
"This is a huge deal to me," Barr said. "At home, I live in fear. Because you will go to jail for the crummiest amount. This feels like liberation."
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Folks in Colorado would be well advised to invest in the fast food/munchies business. The demand will be off the charts..
 
I see a boost to the retirement home industry as well. Everyone high as a kite, Pink Floyd blaring in the background. Best way to enjoy old age by a mile.
 
This should help high end audio sales as more people start really listening to music, and start hearing for the first time the actual music. Then they will be hooked and start trying to extract every note, nuance, etc. from the music.
 
This should help high end audio sales as more people start really listening to music, and start hearing for the first time the actual music. Then they will be hooked and start trying to extract every note, nuance, etc. from the music.

Au contraire. High on dope all systems sound equally great, redefining the meaning of "high end", and reducing demand for audiophile gear.
 
By Michael Thurston | AFP

Los Angeles (AFP) - Marijuana users in Colorado and Washington are counting down the hours before the western US states become the first to legalize recreational pot shops on January 1.

Blazing a trail they hope will be followed in other parts of the United States, cannabis growers and others are also rubbing their hands, while tax collectors are eyeing the revenue the newly-legalized trade will generate.
Enterprising companies are even offering marijuana tours to cash in on tourists expected to be attracted to a Netherlands-style pot culture -- including in Colorado's famous ski resorts.

"Just the novelty alone is bringing people from everywhere," said Adam Raleigh of cannabis supplier Telluride Bud Co.
"I have people driving in from Texas, Arizona, Utah... to be a part of history.

"Over the last month I have received somewhere between four to six emails a day and five to 10 phone calls a day asking all about the law and when should people plan their ski trip to go along with cannabis," he added.
Medical marijuana is already legal and regulated in 19 US states, and has been allowed in some cases for the past 20 years. And in most of them, private consumption of cannabis is not classified as a crime.

But Colorado and Washington are creating a recreational market in which local authorities will oversee growing, distribution and marketing -- all of it legal -- for people to get high just for the fun of it.

The market is huge: from $1.4 billion in medical marijuana in 2013 it will grow by 64 percent to $2.34 billion in 2014 with recreational pot added in Colorado and Washington, according to Arcview Market Research, which tracks and publishes data on the cannabis industry.
Both states legalized recreational consumption of marijuana in referendums in November last year, but new rules coming into force on January 1 allow cannabis shops.
In Colorado, famous for its Rocky Mountain ski resorts, officials this week issued 348 retail marijuana licenses including for small shops which from January 1 can sell up to 28 grams of pot to people aged 21 or older.

Washington state authorities have received applications for 3,746 marijuana business licenses, including 867 retail licenses, according to The Seattle Times newspaper, which urged caution in an editorial.
"Legalization of marijuana (is) a seismic change in drug-control policy, perhaps the biggest since the end of alcohol prohibition. Supporters and skeptics need to take a deep breath," it said.

Colorado's branch of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML) said everyone will benefit.
"It will mean jobs, tax revenue for the state and local jurisdictions, increased tourism, and a developing progressive new industry in Colorado," NORML attorney Rachel Gillette told AFP.
"It will also have an impact in that marijuana sales will be brought out of the shadows and the black market," she added.
Michael Elliott, head of the Medical Marijuana Industry Group, noted that Colorado has licensed medical marijuana businesses since 2010, but said the influx of tourists for recreational use of pot could lead to shortages.

"It's tough to know whether supply will meet demand, mainly because it's tough to know the impact of tourism on this new market," he said.
"It looks like demand will exceed supply, so I anticipate that prices in Colorado will go up ... But as time goes on, more businesses will open meaning there will be more supply," he added.
Telluride Bud Co's Raleigh compared decriminalizing pot shops to legalizing same-sex weddings, which are now allowed in more than a third of US states.
"Give it six months, and when other states see that the sky didn't fall and the revenue we are producing, I believe this will spread just like gay marriage," he said. "You just can't stop the will of the people."

There has been quite extensive coverage of the Colorada move in the UK press with mainly balanced reporting.
The Independent, the main centre left national newspaper devoted an editorial to it today under the heading "Weed freed By legalising marijuana, Colorado is blazing a welcome trail"
The editorial/leader concludes as follows:
"In the meantime, we hope that the enlightened and experimental policies pursued in Colorado and Washington, as well as in Uruguay in Latin America, will start to shake our own political establishment out of its complacent reliance on a policy based on prohibitions pure and simple.It is absurd that we continue with a drugs strategy that ministers have freely admitted does not work but to which - apparently - there is no alternative. The state founded by pioneers has shown that an alternative does exist. Lets hope their pioneering spirit rubs off on us"
Sums it up nicely for me!
 
There has been quite extensive coverage of the Colorada move in the UK press with mainly balanced reporting.
The Independent, the main centre left national newspaper devoted an editorial to it today under the heading "Weed freed By legalising marijuana, Colorado is blazing a welcome trail"
The editorial/leader concludes as follows:
"In the meantime, we hope that the enlightened and experimental policies pursued in Colorado and Washington, as well as in Uruguay in Latin America, will start to shake our own political establishment out of its complacent reliance on a policy based on prohibitions pure and simple.It is absurd that we continue with a drugs strategy that ministers have freely admitted does not work but to which - apparently - there is no alternative. The state founded by pioneers has shown that an alternative does exist. Lets hope their pioneering spirit rubs off on us"
Sums it up nicely for me!

Pioneers 30 years behind the curve. Buying dope was legal in Amsterdam in the 80s (may be earlier - I was too young to know before that). Very welcome trend nonetheless.
 
Prohibition didn't work with alcohol, and isn't working for cannabis. Youtube L.E.A.P. ( law enforcement against prohibition )

Stereos always sounded better under the influence, I haven't heard that magic since the good ole days.
 
How many of you here saying pot is ok have used it?

I have done many drugs in my lifetime , and used pot now and then weekly for most of my life. In fact i would still be using it, if it weren't mandatory drug testing of two of my lisc,s. . The point is would you want you son or daughter to use it. No one normal would say yes. Its the same as cigarets. Now not make jail and just a ticket , this is ok . But to just make it ok really. I would like some of you to explain your views a little better and lets talk about your kids or grand kids. Maybe i have the wrong view, so help me understand yours. I am not a cop, never been to rehab. So i have no axe to grind .

Al. D
 
 
How many of you here saying pot is ok have used it?

I have done many drugs in my lifetime , and used pot now and then weekly for most of my life. In fact i would still be using it, if it weren't mandatory drug testing of two of my lisc,s. . The point is would you want you son or daughter to use it. No one normal would say yes. Its the same as cigarets. Now not make jail and just a ticket , this is ok . But to just make it ok really. I would like some of you to explain your views a little better and lets talk about your kids or grand kids. Maybe i have the wrong view, so help me understand yours. I am not a cop, never been to rehab. So i have no axe to grind .

Al. D

You're framing the issue incorrectly. There are two relevant questions:

(1) If (like most parents) you would prefer your kids not to smoke dope, does your parental disapproval of outlawing the practice make it any less likely they actually will. empirical evidence suggest no.
(2) Considering 1, if your kids are so inclined, they are going to smoke dope whether you like it or not and whether it is legal or not. Given this reality, does this make them criminals and would you want them to risk ending up in jail for doing so? Probably not.

Given the reasonable answers to (1) and (2), should smoking dope be illegal. The answer is no. QED.
 
How many of you here saying pot is ok have used it?

That would be me

I have done many drugs in my lifetime , and used pot now and then weekly for most of my life. In fact i would still be using it, if it weren't mandatory drug testing of two of my lisc,s. . The point is would you want you son or daughter to use it. No one normal would say yes. Its the same as cigarets. Now not make jail and just a ticket , this is ok . But to just make it ok really. I would like some of you to explain your views a little better and lets talk about your kids or grand kids. Maybe i have the wrong view, so help me understand yours.

Al. D

Both my kids have used it, my son has MS and it is a wonderful treatment to the alternative pharms that all doctors recommend, which are all synthetic toxic chemicals not designed to be taken by humans wo wish to live long lives....ask the families of the 100,000 people who died from taking Vioxx. So your statement of "No one normal would say yes", i WOULD STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH. Big Pharm is doing all the killing:
http://www.naturalnews.com/009278.html

From the Ask.com site:
"There are 0 deaths attributed to people dying per year from a marijuana overdose. About seventy people die a year while high. People have died from the indirect causes of marijuana such as lung cancer. Lung cancer is found more in patients that smoke the plant matter directly than people that use a vaporizer. The amount of people that die from smoking cigarettes still overshadows the amount of people that die from marijuana."

Just read an article about the new marijuana oils that can be administered to hyperactive children on their tongue. It is a natural plant substitute for the toxic pharms with their many side effects that are being given to children like candy and turning them in to zhombies. One tends to be more creative as Bill Hicks said:
Famous people have made their stance clear: marijuana is a heck of a way to jump-start your creative process. As Bill Hicks said:

“See, I think drugs have done some *good* things for us, I really do. And if you don’t believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a Favor: go home tonight and take all your albums, all your tapes, and all your CDs and burn ‘em. ‘Cause you know what? The musician’s who made all that great music that’s enhanced your lives throughout the years… Rrrrrrrrrrrrreal —— high on drugs.”

And as Steve Jobs said"
During a government background check in 1988, Steve Jobs famously remarked:

“The best way I would describe the effect of the marijuana and the hashish is that it would make me relaxed and creative.”

I always said that I could solve all the worlds problems if they let me. Everyone of age would have to do two things every morning:

1. Have Sex
2. Get High

after doing those two things, that would eliminate 99% of all the violence in the world. Thanks Al for suggesting that we put in out 2 cents worth on the subject. And I haven't even gotten into the many other ways it could be used to save the world, like eliminating all the wood wasted for paper production, hemp oil which could be used in all diesel engines eliminating almost all the pollution and having us only need oil for lubrication only(gas engines would be a thing of the past) I could go on and on.
 
Au contraire. High on dope all systems sound equally great, redefining the meaning of "high end", and reducing demand for audiophile gear.

Oh, yeah? Well, not all of them have music notes dancing around the room in color.

Wait...
my bad...
...wrong drug :D
 
Yes I agree with the parts about pot that is good. In fact I used it for all those purposes. I would take a couple of puffs before going out to dinner , to Inhance the food flavor. It never made me creative , and although sex and listening to music was better. It always clouded a good thought process for me. So the creative part did not happen for me. As the person
Who's children use for medical reasons . I truly understand your purpose and this is the only way it should be aloud .
As for my kids of course they did anyway. My one son tried it a few times and never liked it. My other son did that and whole lot more. I had him arrested several times and forced him to rehab for almost two years. Well for him it worked
He is a bipolar . And weed did calm him down, he still,uses it to this day now and then . He does not sleep like normal people do. 4 hours and he is done. And yes I have smoked pot with him in the past. While fishing on a boat or when riding trails with our quads. And I did not mean to flame , it's just I do not think pot is so great as most people who use it claim it is. However it is better than drinking for sure and I do not think it leads to other drugs either.

And thanks for the replys here great topic.
 

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