Breaking news from DCS….

[Stereophonic]

Never compared it in my system, listened to it more than once and it did not appeal to me.
I have higher expectations in the Wadax Reference and hope to listen to it sometime in January.

I would have higher expectations too in Wadax Reference....

BTW, why be tired of seeing great systems that many audiophiles and music lovers enjoy so much?

Sure they are great systems and i'm glad many audiophiles and music lovers enjoy them so much.....

Any manufacturer wants to place their products with top successful distributors and dealers. The Wilson distributor/dealer network is large and well organized and Wilson Audio uses dCS products in their factory. This seems a natural partnership. BTW, in Europe the dCS Bartok is selling very well to customers outside the Wilson/Agostino clan.

Well, this is another question. Partnership is natural not only in audio industry, no suprises here. Another question is how is managed....

Probably if Wadax had a larger distribution we would be all be speaking about its sound quality in this forum, not about dCS gossip or other DACs ...

This thread isn't about Wadax, i haven't introduce it here. Let's see what DCS says and more important, what John Quick says...
Audio business isn't an ONG and my criticism about clan i mention is shared by many "in house" dealers.....

 

[jfrech]

Does anyone have the official press release? This stinks for John Quick, I know him and he's always been helpful. I can only assume this is a cost cutting measure and dCS continues on and this doesn't really effect their products and the path they are on from a product point of view.

 

[Al M.]

This stinks for John Quick, I know him and he's always been helpful.

Very nice person. I once met him at Goodwin's and had a good chat with him about the Rossini.

 

[Hydrology]

So many mixed comments about John Quick on this thread.

 

[dan31]

My interactions with John have been very professional and he was very helpful.

 

[KeithR]

What’s the point of this thread. Why does it surprise folks that distributors change. It’s like a grand conspiracy exists where it doesn’t.

 

[caesar]

John Quick is a real mensch in this industry. I do not share many of his tastes with dCS and D'Agostino, but he is as good as it gets. Whether it's a reduction in force or if he is moving on to a new venture, all the best to him.

 

[Cableman]

dCS were kind enough to fix my Meitner ( yes you read that correctly ) so they can do no wrong by me

 

[jfrech]

It's apparently a disagreement around distribution on one of dCS's products. Trying to broaden market appeal and have a "direct to consumer" line from a exclusive on-line retailer and keep the existing dealer network minus the "new" exclusive product.

https://www.moon-audio.com/brands/dcs.html

 

[Lee]

Does anyone have the official press release? This stinks for John Quick, I know him and he's always been helpful. I can only assume this is a cost cutting measure and dCS continues on and this doesn't really effect their products and the path they are on from a product point of view.

John is a friend of mine as well. I am totally baffled as to why they would let him go. To me, he was "Mr. dCS." Thoroughly professional an just a good guy who gets great sound at every show I attended that had dCS.

Jesse Luna has helped me a few times as well and he is terrific.

 

[Lee]

What’s the point of this thread. Why does it surprise folks that distributors change. It’s like a grand conspiracy exists where it doesn’t.

That's not what happened and it doesn't give proper credit to John Quick who largely built the brand in the U.S. over roughly 18 years.

 

[Lee]

I don’t know what Wadax thinks about it, but imho Atlantis is far superior than Vivaldi. I don’t see any direct competition here.
At the same time, i’m tired to see same Wilson/D’Agostino/Dcs/Transparent systems…
It have always smelled bad miles away…. Always the same closed pack.
Time ago Audio Research was the choiced, but now AR is part of Sonus Faber so it is out of the clan…
There are a lot of good stuff out there, more than ever, so this kind of pressure of this clan with dealers isn’t anything i’m glad to see…
This kind of business model left users less free to take right decisions…

Audio Research is no longer part of the group that owns Songs Faber. They are owned by an investor group.

 

[Stereophonic]

Audio Research is no longer part of the group that owns Songs Faber. They are owned by an investor group.

Yes. I thought it was in Fine Sounds Group.
Thanks.

 

[GSOphile]

I believe Fine Sounds changed their name to the McIntosh Group. I think subsequently Audio Research again went independent, at least it's no longer part of the McIntosh Group, where Sonus Faber remains.

 

[Elliot G.]

I believe Fine Sounds changed their name to the McIntosh Group. I think subsequently Audio Research again went independent, at least it's no longer part of the McIntosh Group, where Sonus Faber remains.

Audio Research was purchased and is owned now by Trent Suggs. It is its own company. BTW that happened well over a year ago.

 

[Stereophonic]

From my point of view DCS is immersed in a big crisis and couldn’t be the only one…
John Quick was called last week from the UK when he left a show to tell him that he was fired and that any opposition should do it to the lawyers of usa.
Then every US dealer received a letter indicating that John Quick and his team “have departed dCS” and “From this time forward, you can direct all queries regarding orders and other dCS dealer business directly to UK”.
How is this possible?
DCS has been launching more affordable products during last time and its flagship remains with same technology than years ago… Its price politic has been more aggressive, Bartok is an example…
Reality is the import costs of transporting a container, x10 in 1 year, energy x3 in a year, raw materials x1.5, x3, xN, strategic products (electronic components), WITHOUT availability within 1.5 years and the list goes on…
This may have become in a trouble for DCS like to others brands too…
High market prices have always been heavily criticized but this could be an example of, if value chain drops, the industry suffers.
More Batok’s sales, less margin, now, more losses…
It was impossible to imagine that a legend brand like DCS could left US with its 20 dealers without a professional comercial team working in the biggest market, maybe second one today after Asia.
Sad news for our beloved hobby…

 

[ozy]

John Quick is a real mensch in this industry. I do not share many of his tastes with dCS and D'Agostino, but he is as good as it gets. Whether it's a reduction in force or if he is moving on to a new venture, all the best to him.

I’ll second your notion whole heartedly, mainly the John quick= mensch part.

 

[Lee]

From my point of view DCS is immersed in a big crisis and couldn’t be the only one…
John Quick was called last week from the UK when he left a show to tell him that he was fired and that any opposition should do it to the lawyers of usa.
Then every US dealer received a letter indicating that John Quick and his team “have departed dCS” and “From this time forward, you can direct all queries regarding orders and other dCS dealer business directly to UK”.
How is this possible?
DCS has been launching more affordable products during last time and its flagship remains with same technology than years ago… Its price politic has been more aggressive, Bartok is an example…
Reality is the import costs of transporting a container, x10 in 1 year, energy x3 in a year, raw materials x1.5, x3, xN, strategic products (electronic components), WITHOUT availability within 1.5 years and the list goes on…
This may have become in a trouble for DCS like to others brands too…
High market prices have always been heavily criticized but this could be an example of, if value chain drops, the industry suffers.
More Batok’s sales, less margin, now, more losses…
It was impossible to imagine that a legend brand like DCS could left US with its 20 dealers without a professional comercial team working in the biggest market, maybe second one today after Asia.
Sad news for our beloved hobby…

dCS is likely creating a new team for the U.S. dealers. I doubt it would abandon the dealers. I am hearing they are doing very well on DAC sales.

I am baffled as to why John Quick would not be included in this new effort...but I don't have the full scoop on what happened yet.

 

[Steve williams]

I will have the press release tomorrow

 

[Hydrology]

What’s the point of this thread. Why does it surprise folks that distributors change. It’s like a grand conspiracy exists where it doesn’t.

My thoughts exactly.