Can digital get to vinyl sound and at what price?
- Thread starter ScottK
- Start date
Actually no, the statements about dynamic range for digital media are factually correct. And as far as I can tell, a dynamic range of 70 dB for vinyl is a quite generally accepted number.
A better answer might be, does it matter? If the dynamic range of most *recordings* isn't that high, which appears to be the case, what's the point?
Instead of quoting theorems, I listen to music and have grown up attending hundreds of live symphonies.
On a lower end or midrange system, digital probably does sound better than vinyl.
I have decades-long extensive live experience with symphonies, chamber music etc. as well. To my ears vinyl does not have a clear advantage over digital when it comes fidelity to the real thing. And yes, I have heard high-level vinyl playback in other systems numerous times.
You have your opinion, I have mine. The fact that your opinion may be louder ("vinyl blows digital away", per a previous post of yours) does not automatically make it more correct.
The problem with the Nyquist theorem is that it doesn't work as well in the real world, and the stairsteps have always been measureable.
Republicoftexas69
Well-Known Member
As you stated @peraljam5000 point is moot and why are we wasting our time??
Also has anyone compared DSD and other hi res files / streaming to vinyl?
It blows away Vinyl so hard it's not even funny .
Actually DSD is the closest to the sound that was recorded in the studio , he can hear no difference to at all
Paul from PS Audio says it himself .
And vinyl "has a sound of it's own " That's a direct quote from him .
Not to mention that vinyl is a copy from the digital master .
Nothing can sound better than the master itself, period .
It blows away Vinyl so hard it's not even funny .
Actually DSD is the closest to the sound that was recorded in the studio , he can hear no difference to at all
Paul from PS Audio says it himself .
And vinyl "has a sound of it's own " That's a direct quote from him .
Not to mention that vinyl is a copy from the digital master .
Nothing can sound better than the master itself, period .
Republicoftexas69
Well-Known Member
Lol no amount of facts will change your mind
Enjoy your "superior " format
Perhaps
I do think that dynamic range is more critical in digital, because you want to stay away as far as possible from audible quantization noise. But then there's a little thing called dither, which converts it into random noise. A bit like tape hiss.
Last edited:
Exactly. Thanks for bringing up the point. The comparison also changes with high-quality physical digital disc playback. There is a synthetic quality of sound with streaming that can be avoided, but isn't always in less than optimal implementations (unfortunately this holds for some stationary file playback too, even though perhaps the problem is less pronounced). In the presence of this somewhat artificial timbre I would prefer vinyl too.
Get together, drink plenty and play music… what’s not to get enthusiastic aboutScandinavian Jazz bands are great, what they lack in talent, they make up for with enthusiasm !
tho I do prefer my jazz without the words 
Interesting that you should say that.
While my digital is descent I prefer my vinyl and I don't even have one of the really hi end, "best?" analog setups. I would say that has also been true of listening to my audiophile friends extremely good digital setups, they are really good but I dig the sound of vinyl.
Until recently that is ! A friend has an Antipodes Oladra and when he upgraded to the Lampizator Horizon the sound of his already excellent system went to the next level.
It might be time to take more notice of digital!
Sorry, it does not help you knowledge of reproduced sound. At best it helps establishing you own preference.
Probably implies a statistic. Can you report us how you arrived to such brilliant conclusion?
IMO preference does not depend on price, we can get adequate systems for any media for any price range. But I feel sometimes it is easier to add some euphonic distortions to low price vinyl systems than to digital systems.
In fact, opinions such as kills, blows, eclipse or outshine are espected to be emotional but poorly reasoned.
But we should remember that digital overload sounds hard and brittle, easily identified, while analog overload sounds louder and is harder to note. Probably it is why some vinyl fans like to tell it LOUDER - they got used to it!
Similar threads
