Cello Videos

[bonzo75]

There hasn't been a video thread for a long time.

So cello focused only

If you put videos in search, and check the Search Titles Only box, you will find the other interesting threads on videos

 

[bonzo75]

 

[bonzo75]

 

[bonzo75]

2 different Bach cello recordings here played through the same system. Shows transparency to recordings

hORNS universum videos

Ortofon Anna, CH precision phono, custom pre and KT 120 push pull with tango and tamura transformers. Byrdparis' system

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[bonzo75]

 

[bonzo75]

 

[ddk]

What’s the source Ked, it’s very flat sounding lacking any harmonics and overtones. It’s the same in both videos.

david

 

[Audiophile Bill]

What’s the source Ked, it’s very flat sounding lacking any harmonics and overtones. It’s the same in both videos.

david

Kedar will have to confirm but pretty sure it is the Sikora Reference Turntable.

 

[ddk]

Kedar will have to confirm but pretty sure it is the Sikora Reference Turntable.

I’m not familiar with any of these components Bill just assuming the fault lies with the front end but I could be wrong. There’s also the hollow tunnel effect of speakers to get past in these videos.

david

 

[Al M.]

I’m not familiar with any of these components Bill just assuming the fault lies with the front end but I could be wrong. There’s also the hollow tunnel effect of speakers to get past in these videos.

david

What do you mean by hollow tunnel effect, David?

 

[ddk]

What do you mean by hollow tunnel effect, David?

Listen to the hollowness and slight echo around the violin and specially the piano in the 2nd video, you can easily hear that they’re forced through a pipe or a vent with eyes closed.

david

 

[Audiophile Bill]

Listen to the hollowness and slight echo around the violin and specially the piano in the 2nd video, you can easily hear that they’re forced through a pipe or a vent with eyes closed.

david

Exactly - I hear the exact same thing, David. Useful that you put some vocab to this.

 

[bonzo75]

with eyes closed.

david

You and Peter were supposed to convert Al looks like he converted you

 

[bonzo75]

I’m not familiar with any of these components Bill just assuming the fault lies with the front end but I could be wrong. There’s also the hollow tunnel effect of speakers to get past in these videos.

david

These particular videos don't sound that good on it I actually posted it to contrast the strength of the dual woofer FLH of the Altec on the same track.

This is an older version of pnoe smaller slightly than the general's but the speaker was always very sensitive to set up. It usually show cases problems till it is spot on

 

[ddk]

These particular videos don't sound that good on it I actually posted it to contrast the strength of the dual woofer FLH of the Altec on the same track.

This is an older version of pnoe smaller slightly than the general's but the speaker was always very sensitive to set up. It usually show cases problems till it is spot on

Let’s get serious here Ked those speakers are a plastic pipe with a driver stuck at one end, what setup?

david

 

[bonzo75]

Let’s get serious here Ked those speakers are a plastic pipe with a driver stuck at one end, what setup?

david

That's one way of looking at it, the simplicity of the best driver in a one way, so no crossover is another. Backloaded horns have challenges timing the bass from one mouth to the upper frequency of the other mouth that needs to be managed

 

[Solypsa]

Managed by adjusting speaker position?

 

[ddk]

That's one way of looking at it, the simplicity of the best driver in a one way, so no crossover is another. Backloaded horns have challenges timing the bass from one mouth to the upper frequency of the other mouth that needs to be managed

Well, these aren’t WEs nor have anything managed that I hear. Simplicity is great when it’s real engineers involved you’re literally listening to a plastic pipe with a driver and it sounds like it too.

david

 

[bonzo75]

Well, these aren’t WEs nor have anything managed that I hear. Simplicity is great when it’s real engineers involved you’re literally listening at a plastic pipe with a driver and it sounds like it too.

david

No not in this video but they have been great in other forms in person (and awful as well like in Munich). Why they never did as well in videos I do not know. Not the best of WE but close and smaller size

 

[bonzo75]

Managed by adjusting speaker position?

They are surprisingly room sensitive, as in they sound flat in corners and muffled. But the key when you have no cross over is to take advantage of the nuance it is capable of and the high dynamic range so all electronics have to suit. Nuance and agility should not be suppressed anywhere in the chain. It does not do well with poor source or recordings and the bass cam sometime go off time with high unless right amp is used. I never really heard it sound good except with Mayer 46, and red sparrow and linear tracker and great records. And I have heard it with 6 amps plus Munich. I understand there is a possibility to hear with new electronics now that work wonders so at some point in the future hope to listen.