Coronavirus ...

[rob]

For one, Brits just won't take to being ordered to stay indoors Wuhan-style. The French love rioting, and Macron is just about to enforce societal quarantine, and is already adept at using the full force of riot police, but the Brits are just not open to this. Not an option.

When you then throw in our woefully underfunded NHS, Boris is juggling the most critical consideration of timing on escalating advice.

However I totally get the incredulity on all this.

Yes they will, you will see Boris change tactics dramatically very soon. If he doesn't look out.

 

[NorthStar]

During the Great Depression, what was the magic sauce that brought back people and the markets to life?

 

[jazdoc]

During the Great Depression, what was the magic sauce that brought back people and the markets to life?

World War II

 

[Ron Resnick]

People are no more important than animals, often time less important.

This strikes me as a very strong declaration, with no supporting argument, underlying philosophy, analysis or evidence. I'm not implying whether I agree with the statement or not; nor am I implying whether I think it's true or not.

But it seems to me like an odd and unnecessary hand grenade to toss onto the thread.

 

[Ron Resnick]

It seems to me that here in the US its all being done ad/hoc or actually half/assed. Some things are closed and others not depending on what city or state you live in. Here in Florida they closed some of the beaches and put some regulations on the restaurants and bars but this is only in selected areas.I don't understand how this can be effective .

As I explain to my Dutch wife who is not accustomed to a national president and state governors and county executives and city mayors and town supervisors . . . it is not easy to impose uniform rules upon such a complicated and decentralized governmental structure.

 

[howiebrou]

The UK Govt has today announced that it will be stepping up testing in the next few days

Chris Whitty said they would be ramping up the testing capability ‘very soon’. He’s beginning to sound like Trump & Pence. Why testing is only being ramped up now is beyond me. My friend’s school in Brighton just closed due to a positive case.

 

[Folsom]

World War II

And they still needed labor.

 

[NorthStar]

? https://covid19info.live/

I'm posting a screenshot of the numbers as of right now, and I'll repeat that in say 3 to 5 days ...

 

[NorthStar]

World War II

Oh

 

[Ron Resnick]

Today Tinka and I wore thin rubber gloves and face masks to Whole Foods. It was interesting, as an unexpected experiment.

We discovered quickly that if this virus were a true plague occasioning certain death, then I can guarantee you that we all would soon be dead. (Well, except for the doomsday prepper couple in a remote house in rural Idaho.)

Once you're wearing gloves it becomes extremely obvious that it's impossible not to make mistakes. For example, as you approach your vehicle carrying grocery bags how do you get your car key to enter the vehicle and put the grocery bags in the car without touching (infecting) anything? We rapidly learned it is a nearly impossible puzzle.

If you put a just-contaminated gloved hand in your pocket you have just contaminated your pocket and your car key. If you take the gloves off as soon as you leave the grocery store then you have contaminated your clean hands by carrying possibly contaminated grocery bags.

I guess you could bring the grocery bags to the car. Then take off the gloves. Then disinfect your hands. Then retrieve your car key to open the car. Then put the grocery bags in the car. Then disinfect your hands again and be on your way. Then remove the bags from the car at your home. Then close the car door. STOP! Must disinfect the car door handle!

Then carry the grocery bags to your front door. Disinfect your hands to open the front door. Bring the bags in. Disinfect your hands again.

It is a viral Rubik's Cube.

 

[Vienna]

The worst part of all this is that in place of real Leaders all the career bureaucrats running ineffective government agencies and their army ofmorons are in charge now. Just look at this Tedros guy director of WHO, I wouldn't let him wipe my ass even if I had two broken arms but he's the so called man in charge now. WTF are we allowing to happen to us like a good herd of sheep!

david

David, in a democracy, the people end up with the government and leaders they deserve...Greeks have suffered from them ....and I guess, we will keep suffering.....

 

[ddk]

David, in a democracy, the people end up with the government and leaders they deserve...Greeks have suffered from them ....and I guess, we will keep suffering.....

Sad but true!
But the pencil necks in charge over this pandemic aren’t even elected officials they’re bureaucrats and most are incompetent like the agencies they work for.

david

 

[carl13]

"It’s extremely unfortunate that we can’t trust the mainstream media to view the Wuhan coronavirus story through a reasonably objective lens, because with so much misinformation being spread on social media and beyond, it is so very critical for news outlets to show us for once that they can be trusted to honestly report on the latest developments regarding what’s happening." - Sister Toldjah

https://www.redstate.com/slee/2020/03/16/800327/

 

[KeithR]

This is different for employees who will be laid off because their employer cannot make a profit. Most at risk right now is most of the airline staff. They will find it difficult to get employed again.

the economic fallout will be worse than the virus. shutting down economies has a profound impact

 

[Hi-FiGuy]

Today Tinka and I wore thin rubber gloves and face masks to Whole Foods. It was interesting, as an unexpected experiment.

We discovered quickly that if this virus were a true plague occasioning certain death, then I can guarantee you that we all would soon be dead. (Well, except for the doomsday prepper couple in a remote house in rural Idaho.)

Once you're wearing gloves it becomes extremely obvious that it's impossible not to make mistakes. For example, as you approach your vehicle carrying grocery bags how do you get your car key to enter the vehicle and put the grocery bags in the car without touching (infecting) anything? We rapidly learned it is a nearly impossible puzzle.

If you put a just-contaminated gloved hand in your pocket you have just contaminated your pocket and your car key. If you take the gloves off as soon as you leave the grocery store then you have contaminated your clean hands by carrying possibly contaminated grocery bags.

I guess you could bring the grocery bags to the car. Then take off the gloves. Then disinfect your hands. Then retrieve your car key to open the car. Then put the grocery bags in the car. Then disinfect your hands again and be on your way. Then remove the bags from the car at your home. Then close the car door. STOP! Must disinfect the car door handle!

Then carry the grocery bags to your front door. Disinfect your hands to open the front door. Bring the bags in. Disinfect your hands again.

It is a viral Rubik's Cube.


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Exactly my friend, I drove myself mad at work today and just gave up and washed my hands a lot. We all cant live like Howard Hughes, we just cant. We all just need to be smart and quit perpetuating the paranoia, panic and doom and gloom, its not helping. In fact its making it much worse.

This virus is going to have to run its course. We cant shut down the world over this. We cant continue down this path.

We live in a world of over communication and unfortunately the information and misinformation travels faster than a culture in a petri dish can grow. We need to quit freaking out every second of every day and stay the course.
Its going to take time, we have to accept that and move forward as a world and quit playing the blame game.

There is going to be more fallout and catastrophe from the panic and paranoia than the actual virus itself. The recovery is going to go on for a decade or more as a result of it. We cant shut the world off for two weeks or let alone a month or two.

This is not end of times my friends, not even close.

And don't start reading The Stand. Last sentence of chapter one, "And he coughed"

 

[KeithR]

I suspect the Dow will not stabilize until it falls below 10,000.

I’ll wager against you on this. Name your escrow service.

 

[NorthStar]

Self-Quarantine ...
???? https://www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/guid/26270740-63A3-11EA-BBAF-956FCC553CE3

 

[KeithR]

Well if you ask Milton Friedman followers they will say let everything crash and reprice. Keynesian will say keep doing fiscal stimulus. Debate is older than analog vs digital

We are crashing as evidenced by a week not seen since 1929, keep markets open to reprice. Talk of shutting them even worse. Even after TARP we didn’t bottom for 5 months. I expect the same here.

 

[Folsom]

Today Tinka and I wore thin rubber gloves and face masks to Whole Foods. It was interesting, as an unexpected experiment.

We discovered quickly that if this virus were a true plague occasioning certain death, then I can guarantee you that we all would soon be dead. (Well, except for the doomsday prepper couple in a remote house in rural Idaho.)

Once you're wearing gloves it becomes extremely obvious that it's impossible not to make mistakes. For example, as you approach your vehicle carrying grocery bags how do you get your car key to enter the vehicle and put the grocery bags in the car without touching (infecting) anything? We rapidly learned it is a nearly impossible puzzle.

If you put a just-contaminated gloved hand in your pocket you have just contaminated your pocket and your car key. If you take the gloves off as soon as you leave the grocery store then you have contaminated your clean hands by carrying possibly contaminated grocery bags.

I guess you could bring the grocery bags to the car. Then take off the gloves. Then disinfect your hands. Then retrieve your car key to open the car. Then put the grocery bags in the car. Then disinfect your hands again and be on your way. Then remove the bags from the car at your home. Then close the car door. STOP! Must disinfect the car door handle!

Then carry the grocery bags to your front door. Disinfect your hands to open the front door. Bring the bags in. Disinfect your hands again.

It is a viral Rubik's Cube.


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Yep. You have to leave all your groceries alone for 3 days or swab all of them with alcohol, too.

There might be steps that could help. Employees wear masks, only use baskets that get cleaned, no unloading the basket - basket to bag.

Expectations for this stuff? zero. We're just ruining the economy for what reason?

 

[TLi]

Coronavirus kills, collapsed economy also kills. The question is which is the lesser evil.