dCS new flagship
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The r-2r TDA1541 is very special DAC, It also has hidden codes.
I think the sound quality of DACs depeneds on many parameters like PSU, analog Outputstage, time domain response … just the dac chip does not tell us all the story.
comparing dCS Vivaldi vs DIY 1541 tube dac needs a high performance reference system, I think tube nos dacs have quite different presentation to dsp dacs like dCS.
As an old world vinylista, after I siphon off the grousing about price, this is an entertaining thread. Look at the evolution of digital audio technology over the past 50 years. It is hard to keep up.
Wadax, dCS, Taiko, MSB ... others?
DACs, Servers, Clocks, Power Supplies, Switches, Routers, Transports ...
I had little idea about the rise of expensive proprietary cabling systems coming on scene for the various multi-box digital 'empires' of recent times. Thus far much of the high-end has been 'democratic' in the sense that you can mix different components to create a system. (PC computing vs Apple) Will the trend toward manufacturer specialized cables and interfaces change that going forward?
Wadax, dCS, Taiko, MSB ... others?
DACs, Servers, Clocks, Power Supplies, Switches, Routers, Transports ...
I had little idea about the rise of expensive proprietary cabling systems coming on scene for the various multi-box digital 'empires' of recent times. Thus far much of the high-end has been 'democratic' in the sense that you can mix different components to create a system. (PC computing vs Apple) Will the trend toward manufacturer specialized cables and interfaces change that going forward?
Hi, the I/V stage was transformer based not tube, but im not really disagreeing what you are saying, as it is a matter of taste anyway in the end..
I will answer as briefly as I can.
No !!!
DCS's mission is to survive the financial crisis of 2022.
They were losing money to the point of kicking John Quick out of the company and leaving US distributors without support.
I know dCS very well from the times where they reigned together with Esoteric. Curiously, Esoteric has also stopped occupying the space he had due to a series of consecutive errors that have also made him lose his way. In any business field, it costs a lot to create a prestigious brand but very little to lose it completely.
The world has completely changed. Rich are getting richer and poor are getting poorer. This means that demand of top systems grows regardless of price.
Brands are reacting logically to that demand. But the way of reacting is what reinforces the prestige of some and the opportunism of others. Look at this image of Munich 2024.
Nothing new, Wilson, d'Agostino and Dcs. The usual trio. But there are differences:
- Wilson is reinforcing its presence with new uber speakers ( Chronosonic ) based on a solid product line.
- Dan d'Agostino with Relentless line.
An example of creating a prestigious brand. He broke the market launching Momentum line and moving his offer on both sides. Progression at the bottom and Relentless at the top.
- Now look at the position of DCS in the system. The most than well-known and amortized Vivaldi Ring Dac? With the hasty renovation (Apex) to save the 2022 furniture?
Seriously speaking. I wouldn't even value the acquisition of the new Varèse for half the price.
They arrive late, desperate and with sad opportunism.
LOL, No I am not joking.
Yes, 80's cd players sucked, but the multibit DAC chips have huge potential. The early Philips swing arm laser optics were, in my opinion, unmatched for reading CDs.
It is quite amazing just how musical these early implementations can be made to sound.
Saw them at the Hong Kong Hiend & AV Show today afternoon.
However, silent display only.
However, silent display only.
Maybe they haven’t find yet Wilson, d’Agostino and Transparent fellows….Saw them at the Hong Kong Hiend & AV Show today afternoon.
However, silent display only.
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The best drive cdm 1 with rodenstock glass lence only cleanup runs forrever..so good.
My tip Cambridge cd3 with 4x TDA1541 S1 put behind a lundahl outputtransformer (I/V conversation) and you get music machine what today hard to beat trust me.
P.S looks like ugly duck, but its sounds like the beautifulst swan.
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As somebody whose work has been covered by M&S on both their FB page and their main page, I am telling you, you are incorrect. I have NEVER paid M&S for any coverage - Matej has reached out to me numerous times because he wants to show as much content that is hifi-related through his website.
I would say that their main page has numerous affiliate links on it (clearly obvious), but they are predominately a news site.
But that's alright, its Ok to disbelieve or disagree with me - you are clearly part of the new wave of social media "folk" who know you get noticed by stirring the pot and dealing in hifi conspiracy theories (Hi-Fi Mafia??....please
)Alas, well played sir.
I respect your opinion even though you feel the need to cast aspersion and personal attacks.As somebody whose work has been covered by M&S on both their FB page and their main page, I am telling you, you are incorrect. I have NEVER paid M&S for any coverage - Matej has reached out to me numerous times because he wants to show as much content that is hifi-related through his website.
I would say that their main page has numerous affiliate links on it (clearly obvious), but they are predominately a news site.
But that's alright, its Ok to disbelieve or disagree with me - you are clearly part of the new wave of social media "folk" who know you get noticed by stirring the pot and dealing in hifi conspiracy theories (Hi-Fi Mafia??....please
Alas, well played sir.
Thankfully unlike other people (such as M&S - I've seen their rate sheet; or other YouTube or print media reviewers who demand free product to review gear - yes we all know who they are) I don't monetize what I do so my hands and conscious are clean. Something VERY few people in any media can say.
As to feeling the need to be noticed, there are a lot easier ways to do that then simply making fun videos and being subjected to small people on forums that love making personal attacks because it makes them feel better about themselves.
If recent history over the last few years has shown us - when people want to shut down a topic they are quick to call it a conspiracy theory with their sarcastic and derogatory tone. Unfortunately for them it seems everything they've labeled a conspiracy theory has ended up being found out to be true. In the end the ones calling it a conspiracy theory were the ones hiding the truth.
I hope you have a great day and find a way to find more happiness in your life. And as always I do respect your opinion even if I disagree with what ever points you make. It's easy to be a jerk, and harder to keep dignity.
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In your manifesto video you say you are making assumptions about monetization and cash for comments by M&S and are prepared to be corrected if this is untrue, now you reference a "rate sheet". I have called you out on this as my experience with M&S has never even remotely, involved a conversation about money, sponsorship, exchange, nada. If you truly believe the hi-fi fraternity are conspiring and you are the saviour or one of the few to guide us through the mire of audio lies, please, share your hard evidence. Do your fans a huge favour, expose the lies!!!!
You seem to get deleted and banned from various communities and groups (based on your comments by the way) - ever consider that the problem is a little closer to home and it could be you and not "them"? The more I hear about somebody wanting to be truthful and honest and transparent, the more the opposite is true.
Because simply put, if you arent part of the solution, you're certainly part of the problem.
Have a joyous day sir, I couldn't be more happier if I tried.
See, the thing I do not understand is why some would put down the latest & top end product from a well estblished manufacturer without even having a listen. Social media misadventures and industry politics aside, end of the day, I would expect it's whether the performance in terms of sound quality whether this will tickle our fetish (let's just admit this is more than just normal fanatism at this stage).
So, let's move this thread along to discuss & dissect in every detail these new devices until we get a chance to listen to it and then talk about listening impressions after.
CD transport is incoming later but is no longer Esoteric based.
Raveen told me the improvement in SQ is bigger than when the mappings were introduced. To me, the introduction of mapping was a huge game changer. This apparently is a bigger leap than that.
So, let's move this thread along to discuss & dissect in every detail these new devices until we get a chance to listen to it and then talk about listening impressions after.
CD transport is incoming later but is no longer Esoteric based.
Raveen told me the improvement in SQ is bigger than when the mappings were introduced. To me, the introduction of mapping was a huge game changer. This apparently is a bigger leap than that.
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This is a good point.
Anything that helps make digital better is a step forward.
Competition among brands is key to improving sound playback.
100% Joe,
I just don't get it. I'll never ever afford this new system but at no point am I sad or taking umbrage to the cost. If they (dCS) have unlocked huge performance potential and this is the cost of doing it, more power to them.
I'll never sit here and sulk and be petty minded about the things I cant afford, or towards the people who can afford them.
Oh wait, did dCS just pay me to say that?....
Oh my. You win my award for the most (insert descriptor) generalization I have ever heard. Color me speechless.
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Love ya man, but we have to agree to disagree here. Digital technology has progressed greatly since the 1980s.
Here are the spec's of the Varese (DSD/512 has arrived & BTW it's only 222.50 pounds for the 5 boxes).
Best to all,
Bob
Best to all,
Bob
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