Doctor's Orders-Part Two-The New Listening Room Of Steve Williams
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what for me was the best fun was, as Peter said, hearing both systems, using electronics with similar DNA but different speakers and listening to the net effect. You're right, it was all good Jeff. Mine was a figure of speech. I came home after hearing DSOM at your house on that pressing and listened too mine and although I thought it was very good, it came no where close to yours.
I considered it, I still own the M1.2R. But you loose a lot in other aspects when you move from ML3 to M1.2R.
Although I now only listen to the Dark Side in the company of friends, even some of my Savall recordings need more dynamics than the Dark Side.
there might have been a time when that was correct......
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but now? it's a small world, somewhat defined by Seattle.
Microsoft, Amazon, Starbucks, Costco, Boeing, Hendrix, Nirvana............
I considered it, I still own the M1.2R. But you loose a lot in other aspects when you move from ML3 to M1.2R.
I borrowed the Lamm M1.1s briefly for my Magicos. 100 Class A watts. That combination sounded fantastic. There is, however, some magic with the Lamm SETs that is missing with the SS. I understand where both Steve and Jeff are coming from.
I hadn't listened to DSOTM for ages and then Jeff visited and wanted to hear it followed by Ian and then Al.
Frasier Crane? Pearl Jam?there might have been a time when that was correct......
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but now? it's a small world, somewhat defined by Seattle.
Microsoft, Amazon, Starbucks, Costco, Boeing, Hendrix, Nirvana............
Pearl Jam is a much loved Seattle pureblood for sure and lasted multiple decades, but they have never been the iconic, global shooting star, watershed musical forces that Nirvana or Hendrix were.
OTOH Frasier Crane was Hollywood's view of Seattle.....not quite....Seattle.
Sure Mike, wasn't making a Hendrix v Pearl Jam comparo. Just expanding the envelope.
Peter
I totally agree.
for my ears the Lamm Signature Series is magic to my ears. They drive my speakers but not with the ease that they do on horn speakers with higher efficiency
at David’s house his preamp was set to 3 or 4 on the gain control whereas at my house playing the same records my gain control was set at 8
hearing DSOM at Jeff’s house had me thinking of it all the way home and it was the first thing I played. Totally different presentation than Jeff’s. The slam in his system when played totally toasted mine
If you like dynamics try this:
Maybe the most dynamic rock album I've heard. I've wondered what it would sound like on a horn system.
Curiously I find more interesting the differences between the systems than the similarities. And as far as I see it, currently Steve does not care about being vinyl or digital, all he wants is enjoying the music!
Yes, the differences are interesting too. I see them mostly as speaker and matching amp choices, but also the rooms and degree of dampening. Cables and accessories are also quite different, but as you say, Steve seems very happy to be done and simply enjoy his music. No doubt, Jeff is enjoying his music too.
Around here, my audio friends have panels, full range cone, monitor/sub, and now corner horns. Tubes/SS/digital/vinyl. Vast differences in sound and presentation, but surely each prefers what he has and enjoys his music. These systems are not really changing now either.
Differences are what make things interesting and lead to spirited forum chat.
My Stones albums sound like shit, Does this one sound better?
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Than what you have - canna say. I expect less and have no problems with the album. It's Keith's raw voice and guitar flavored with a bit of reggae. Kinda cool slow flow. Try 'Words of Wonder'. I don't emphasize dynamics per se but the whack of stick on snare is a shot through the heart.
Agreed The Stones albums suck sonically and the K Richard album isn't much better.......
not if you get the grey market 1/4" 15ips master dub tapes (have 3 nice ones). but even then there are great cuts sonically and others that are rough. i think Stone's Lp's are like that.....each cut has it's own sonics. some are demo quality.
or the right early mono pressings (only have a couple).
most of my stereo pressings are 'meh'. got to be in the mood for some raw rock n' roll. it's not Vivaldi.
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I’ve posted this also in the Horizon thread in thecDAC forum
Come Hear The West Coast Debut Of The Newly Released Lampizator Horizon
A Chance to Hear The Horizon and Meet Lukas Fikus (Master Yoda) And Fred Ainsley(LampiNA)
Feb 12, 13, 14 (although final dates to be determined)
over the past 6 months I have posted many times that I have reached the stage of my my system where I am finally playing my system to hear the music rather than playing the music to hear my system although I did say that I had 2 future upgrades to complete my system. Well not surprisingly I have purchased a Horizon and with the global launch of the product here at WBF I have been in contact with Fred and Lukasz for the past several months anticipating the release of the Horizon and getting to know quite a bit about the product. I have yet to announce the second piece of equipment that will be added and these two components should happily carry me off into the Horizon ( no pun intended)
To that extent I have been aware that Lukasz and Fred will be showing the Horizon at the Florida show in February. Well I would like to announce to alll who read this that I have encouraged Lukasz and Fred to come West first before the Florida show, as by that time, I will have my new Horizon with hopefully adequate tube burn in, such that I am going to open my house and my system to any and all interested who want to hear the Horizon in a well treated and set up room. Dates are still yet to be finalized but I am hoping Lukasz will arrive at my house on or before Friday Feb 11 and if so I will have an open house all day Feb 12 and Feb 13 as well as the evening of Feb 14
Although I have chosen which tubes I prefer Lukasz will be bringing a bag of tubes and we will hopefully have time to create a tube selection that will maximize the Horizon in my system As you all know I am not a tube roller. I prefer to seek the most natural sound and settle on that
So to all members and those reading this thread, this is an open invitation to all to come hear the Horizon at my house in my system and not have any worries about room issues at an audio show. Plus how much greater can it be to meet and hear Master Yoda , the brains behind it all, give personal demos. Also Fred will be hear as well. For those who don't know Fred, he is LampiNAhere on WBF and is the USA distributor for the Lampizator products. Fred has helped me immensely in my Lampizator quest and he will be here as well for these day.
As I think about this post, I realize that this is actually more than the West Coast Debut of the Horizon but in all likelihood the USA and possibly even global debut. So to everyone reading, it's cheap to get here. Southwest Air into John Wayne Orange County Airport is the easiest. For those coming by car I am about 60 miles south got Los Angeles. I live in a guarded gate community so I am requesting that you contact me by PM so I can put names of attendees on the gate pass otherwise they will deny deny entry
Lukasz and Fred have been gracious to make this happen so I am hoping that those along the west coast and here in California will take the drive, have a listen and meet Lukas and Fred. I am very excited about this and I know Lukas and Fred feel the same.
I have a small listening room so I would prefer to give times for attendees so they can spend the most time listening. AsA Result I am posting this a few months early and I will give updates as we get closer but again this will be the big North American Debut
Come Hear The West Coast Debut Of The Newly Released Lampizator Horizon
A Chance to Hear The Horizon and Meet Lukas Fikus (Master Yoda) And Fred Ainsley(LampiNA)
Feb 12, 13, 14 (although final dates to be determined)
over the past 6 months I have posted many times that I have reached the stage of my my system where I am finally playing my system to hear the music rather than playing the music to hear my system although I did say that I had 2 future upgrades to complete my system. Well not surprisingly I have purchased a Horizon and with the global launch of the product here at WBF I have been in contact with Fred and Lukasz for the past several months anticipating the release of the Horizon and getting to know quite a bit about the product. I have yet to announce the second piece of equipment that will be added and these two components should happily carry me off into the Horizon ( no pun intended)
To that extent I have been aware that Lukasz and Fred will be showing the Horizon at the Florida show in February. Well I would like to announce to alll who read this that I have encouraged Lukasz and Fred to come West first before the Florida show, as by that time, I will have my new Horizon with hopefully adequate tube burn in, such that I am going to open my house and my system to any and all interested who want to hear the Horizon in a well treated and set up room. Dates are still yet to be finalized but I am hoping Lukasz will arrive at my house on or before Friday Feb 11 and if so I will have an open house all day Feb 12 and Feb 13 as well as the evening of Feb 14
Although I have chosen which tubes I prefer Lukasz will be bringing a bag of tubes and we will hopefully have time to create a tube selection that will maximize the Horizon in my system As you all know I am not a tube roller. I prefer to seek the most natural sound and settle on that
So to all members and those reading this thread, this is an open invitation to all to come hear the Horizon at my house in my system and not have any worries about room issues at an audio show. Plus how much greater can it be to meet and hear Master Yoda , the brains behind it all, give personal demos. Also Fred will be hear as well. For those who don't know Fred, he is LampiNAhere on WBF and is the USA distributor for the Lampizator products. Fred has helped me immensely in my Lampizator quest and he will be here as well for these day.
As I think about this post, I realize that this is actually more than the West Coast Debut of the Horizon but in all likelihood the USA and possibly even global debut. So to everyone reading, it's cheap to get here. Southwest Air into John Wayne Orange County Airport is the easiest. For those coming by car I am about 60 miles south got Los Angeles. I live in a guarded gate community so I am requesting that you contact me by PM so I can put names of attendees on the gate pass otherwise they will deny deny entry
Lukasz and Fred have been gracious to make this happen so I am hoping that those along the west coast and here in California will take the drive, have a listen and meet Lukas and Fred. I am very excited about this and I know Lukas and Fred feel the same.
I have a small listening room so I would prefer to give times for attendees so they can spend the most time listening. AsA Result I am posting this a few months early and I will give updates as we get closer but again this will be the big North American Debut
