Doctor's Orders-Part Two-The New Listening Room Of Steve Williams

Today I had a wonderful third visit to Steve's listening room. This visit was my first visit after Steve acquired and set-up his vinyl front-end. (The first two visits were fun, but I really cannot tell anything listening to digital, and I really cannot relax while listening to digital.)

This time I brought my standard high-end audio system audition LPs with which I am extremely familiar.

Steve also made some other changes to his system (in addition to getting the new LP front end). On LP Steve's system now sounds, to me, perfectly smooth and natural. I cannot stand brightness of any kind, and not even Sherlock Holmes himself could find brightness in Steve's system now. If Steve had told me he switched to XLFs (which I wanted him to do after the first two visits) I completely would have believed him, and such a switch would have explained to me the difference I heard.

It is difficult to attribute certain sonic characteristics to particular components, so the next two observations are purely guesses. 1) I suspect the Air Force One is contributing mightily to incredible bottom-end heft and weightiness. The piano on "You've Lost That Lov'in Feel'in" on Growing Up in Hollywood Town (Sheffield Lab 13) and the drums on "Bird On a Wire" on Famous Blue Raincoat (yes, I know it is a digital recording) had heft and weightiness and impact I have never heard before. 2) The Ortofon Anna has to be one of the top cartridges available today. I do not know know what it sounds like because it drew no attention to itself. I did not hear any rising-end brightness. I heard the natural midrange I am used to hearing and which I like to hear. I have no choice but to put the Anna on my very short list of contenders for my own cartridge purchase. (Another cartridge option to evaluate I did not need.)

I am someone who has always felt that, prior to the XLF and the Alexia, Wilson speakers sounded bright and a bit edgy because of the metal dome tweeter. I did not know it was possible but, to my ears, vinyl plus all Lamm electronics in Steve's nicely-damped room collectively tame the metal dome tweeter in the big Wilsons, and obviates the desire to switch to XLFs. (I am almost certain that if I ever had high-efficiency speakers I would drive them with Lamm amplifiers.)

For the type of sound I personally like (natural, smooth and warmish; nothing bright or edgy or "analytical"). I really think Steve system sounds perfect. Steve asked me if I would make any changes to his system. I said I literally would not change a thing. (And don't Shun Mook me! : ) I am no longer sure in what ways XLFs would sound better. Every single component Steve has is, in my opinion, among the very best of its type available today. I will seek to achieve with my future system exactly the same tonal balance, dynamics and low-end weightiness I heard today.

As someone who is dogmatically and ideologically anti-digital I could not be happier that Steve is finding vinyl playback musically engaging and emotionally involving!

Thank you, Steve, for another great day!
 
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do you have the album Jack

I have found a few for sale but as Davey says they don't come cheap

Yes I do Steve. I bought a copy from Jadis many, many years ago when the price was kind of steep but not as astronomical as it is today.
 
I'll second what Peter said - great report, Ron. Steve, do you still have Stillpoints in your system?
 
The Stillpoints are all gone including under my speakers

Your sound must have got much more natural now. Since you live on the West Coast you should get Bill Ying of Shun Mook to pay you a visit
 
Great report Ron. Were there any changes to Steve's system besides the analog front end since the last time you heard it? Also, did you listen to any digital in this recent visit?

Thank you, Peter and Ian!

Yes, Steve removed some sound-absorbing material from behind the painting in the middle of the front wall, and Steve replaced his amp stands.

Digital? No. Steve kindly offered to play his music streaming system but I demurred.
 
What made you change your mind re: no Stillpoints under speakers
 
Since you live on the West Coast you should get Bill Ying of Shun Mook to pay you a visit

I don't want to be Shun Mooked! : )
 
Steve, I have the impression that during David's recent visit that he tried to simplify your system and to achieve a more natural sound. Is this when you took out the Stillpoints? Are you still using all of the Shunyata power conditioning gear? I'm now aware of a few serious systems which have moved away from Stillpoints. How would you describe your system's sound after you removed the Stillpoints?
 
I removed all of the Stillpoints gradually until I only had the 8 under my speakers. When my friend Marty was here 3 weeks ago we removed the final 8 and put the Wilson spikes back under the speakers. The sound for my ears Peter was that "natural" sound that I was chasing. It is interesting to reverse the experiment and remove the Stillpoints gradually from under each component. It is the old a analogy of going down that rabbit hole and after so many turns you forget where you were. It was quite a revelation and learning experience for me.
 
I removed all of the Stillpoints gradually until I only had the 8 under my speakers. When my friend Marty was here 3 weeks ago we removed the final 8 and put the Wilson spikes back under the speakers. The sound for my ears Peter was that "natural" sound that I was chasing. It is interesting to reverse the experiment and remove the Stillpoints gradually from under each component. It is the old a analogy of going down that rabbit hole and after so many turns you forget where you were. It was quite a revelation and learning experience for me.

:)

my $.02

I tend to think that the great designers know what they're doing. What I need to provide from my viewpoint are what I call the fundamental: Room Acoustics, Power Quality .. Vibration Control has worked for me in the past on TT but to my ears made no difference on my SS gears or my digital from end. And those were Laboratory grade Active vibration devices..

I am not half surprised by the results...
 
Hi Dan

I'm not encouraging any one to follow what I did. For me rather I was chasing something else. There is no doubt that they make impressive changes to a system and I believe they serve a purpose. I am striving for that natural sound.
 
Steve, I have the impression that during David's recent visit that he tried to simplify your system and to achieve a more natural sound. Is this when you took out the Stillpoints? Are you still using all of the Shunyata power conditioning gear? I'm now aware of a few serious systems which have moved away from Stillpoints. How would you describe your system's sound after you removed the Stillpoints?

He (David) doesn't like still points for the same reason I don't, they are not natural. Personally I find they do add to a clean sound but find the midrange dry and more digital like. He does like the mooks, when set up by the mook man himself
 

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