First trials of active horn speaker

It would be nice if they made some mounting brackets/seal for it.
 
Did.
 
What driver will you use for the prosound project?

18Sound NDS1480N. Neodymium motor, nitride-coated titanium diaphragm. It's a custom studio monitor.
 
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Why not 18 sound beryllium

Excellent question.

The 18Sound ND4014BE won't give me an honest 20kHz top end; I'd either have to add a tweeter or bring down the system efficiency more than I want to.

Also it has a 1.5" throat, which severely limits off-the-shelf horn choices.
 
Try the CP755Ti, phenomenal driver.

It does look very good.

The thing I like about the Titanium Nitride-coated diaphragm that 18Sound uses in the NDS1480N is its apparent freedom from breakup in the top octave, arguably coming pretty close to Beryllium in that respect. Titanium Nitride is a ceramic.

Duke
 
So, I hooked them up today at 1Khz and they sound really good...no tweeter needed. Plenty of air and extension as well as gorgeous mids. Resolution is similar to the big horns, which was already stunning. What is better , interestingly, is the bass articulation. Not a lot better but noticeable. What is perhaps not as good is the relaxed but dynamic ease the bigger driver provides. I think lower than 1k it will sound strained but a couple hundred hz higher might work even better.

Thats what I suggested, believe me you should try out an XO around 1200Hz.
Can you provide measurements of the setup (measured at listening position): first direct axis and then with 30° of axis. Interesting would be as well measuring of the horn in 1m distance.

Question: what crossover you are using now, DSP ore analoge?
 
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It does look very good.
The thing I like about the Titanium Nitride-coated diaphragm that 18Sound uses in the NDS1480N is its apparent freedom from breakup in the top octave, arguably coming pretty close to Beryllium in that respect. Titanium Nitride is a ceramic.
Duke

Like Bonzo suggested I'd prefer a phenolic diaphragm as well becaus voices sound more natural.
 
Like Bonzo suggested I'd prefer a phenolic diaphragm as well because voices sound more natural.

I thought Bonzo suggested a Beryllium diaphragm? Maybe I missed something.
 
It does look very good.

The thing I like about the Titanium Nitride-coated diaphragm that 18Sound uses in the NDS1480N is its apparent freedom from breakup in the top octave, arguably coming pretty close to Beryllium in that respect. Titanium Nitride is a ceramic.

Duke
The Beyma uses a Ti diaphragm but with a Mylar surround as the thinking is that the suspension is causing a lot of the breakup. It is super smooth and clean in the highs.
 
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Thats what I suggested, believe me you should try out an XO around 1200Hz.
Can you provide measurements of the setup (measured at listening position): first direct axis and then with 30° of axis. Interesting would be as well measuring of the horn in 1m distance.

Question: what crossover you are using now, DSP ore analoge?
It is actually sounding super smooth now at 1khz.
I am using dsp with a 2nd order LR and mild EQ (small lift above 7khz). However, the dsp is dig in dig out so I have two external DACs and two small tube amps.
 
The Beyma uses a Ti diaphragm but with a Mylar surround as the thinking is that the suspension is causing a lot of the breakup. It is super smooth and clean in the highs.

Very nice!

My most successful home audio speaker (in terms of sales volume) used a Beyma, the CP385Nd. Chosen after purchasing and evaluating thirteen competing 1" throat compression drivers. I have a lot of respect for Beyma.
 
Very nice!

My most successful home audio speaker (in terms of sales volume) used a Beyma, the CP385Nd. Chosen after purchasing and evaluating thirteen competing 1" throat compression drivers. I have a lot of respect for Beyma.
The driver I am using on the Iwatas is an old CP350TI, which is the predecessor of the CP380m. It has a pure Ti diaphragm but no appreciable breakup. I have it also in my old Odeon La Bohemes, which have such a nice treble that I had to find a pair for my projects. So far, it hasn’t disappointed but the little XT120 was not allowing it to really strut its stuff. The La Bohemes have a 10 inch round Tractrix or Spherical (not sure which) horn from solid wood. I looked at the 18 sound drivers but didn’t find them to have very flat responses, which makes designing more of a challenge. Both Beyma drivers need very little help.
 
Very nice!

My most successful home audio speaker (in terms of sales volume) used a Beyma, the CP385Nd. Chosen after purchasing and evaluating thirteen competing 1" throat compression drivers. I have a lot of respect for Beyma.
That looks like a great driver too but I am not a huge fan of the plastic diaphragms. They can be smoother but lose some realism somehow...don’t know why it’s just what I hear. This is why the Live Act Audio speaker’s with Coaxial Radian drivers and Be diaphragms are so interesting because they also sounded very lifelike. I will be getting some Radian 475pb Be to compare to the Beyma...that should also be interesting.
 
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