For what it's Worth-Tesla
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No chance with the square front(allegedly too hard material) according to crash tests people inside are not safe either. There is supposedly a registered Cybertruck in the Czech Republic, the question is can it be driven in other countries without them confiscating it?
That would be Elon Musk if Trump gets elected...The US needs a department of efficiency .
Cybertruck prices have dropped considerably. The AWD is now around $75K. That’s without FSD. I have FSD in my Model S that I never use.
Go for it , good price
There are enough dumb V8 pick up trucks on the road in the US already.
Go for something sophisticated.
Whats FSD ?
Ah ok full self driving .
Are you allowed to use it to the full extent in the US ?
In europe its blocked by the regulators .
Untilll the GDOE will be installed here as well lol.
Government department of efficiency.
Are you allowed to use it to the full extent in the US ?
In europe its blocked by the regulators .
Untilll the GDOE will be installed here as well lol.
Government department of efficiency.
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That brings a smile to my face. I published what might have been the first technical monograph on autonomous AI robots in the early 1990s when it was more of a dream than a reality. We are closer now thanks to far better software and hardware but not sure if Optimus is ready yet to serve me drinks and mow my lawn. It’s been a dream of AI and sci fi for almost 100 years. Let’s see if it happens in my lifetime!
Welcome to San Francisco. The streets are full of autonomous driverless taxis. It’s a huge tourist attraction. They have run over pedestrians, slammed into fire engines, got stuck in wet concrete and much more. So far the state of California is perfectly happy with fully autonomous cars going amok on our roads. That’s the price of progress, so they say.
Driverless Car Gets Stuck in Wet Concrete in San Francisco (Published 2023)
Though driverless cars have not been blamed for any serious injuries or crashes in the city, they have been involved in several jarring episodes.
Assume you are referring to Waymo. Hardly running amok, but I get your point.Welcome to San Francisco. The streets are full of autonomous driverless taxis. It’s a huge tourist attraction. They have run over pedestrians, slammed into fire engines, got stuck in wet concrete and much more. So far the state of California is perfectly happy with fully autonomous cars going amok on our roads. That’s the price of progress, so they say.
Driverless Car Gets Stuck in Wet Concrete in San Francisco (Published 2023)
Though driverless cars have not been blamed for any serious injuries or crashes in the city, they have been involved in several jarring episodes.www.nytimes.com
Courtesy of Scott Galloway:
- In 2015, Tesla was two years away from a 1,000-kilometer range … a decade later it’s closer to 600 km.
- In 2016, coast-to-coast autonomous driving was two years away.
- In 2019, Tesla said it would have 1 million self-driving cars (that wouldn’t require any human oversight) on the road by mid-2020.
- Also in 2019, robotaxis were one year away … until last week, when we were told robotaxis were two years away.
Is this right? I don't follow Tesla. SpaceX on the other hand
FSD has gotten significantly better in the 5+ years I’ve owned my Model S. But it’s no replacement for a human driver and I can’t see it ever will be. There is the problem of situational awareness that FSD can’t model as well as a human. The stuck in concrete problem captures this perfectly. A human driver would have noticed all the warning signs that were posted on that road. A Tesla’s neural net circuitry is just not trained on that type of signal.
I would never say never. If self driving cars killed 10,000 People in the US every year, would you allow them? Why not. They saved 22,000 lives. Whats this attitude of a computer has to be perfect to be adapted into production. Do people feel they have the right to let 33,000 die every year until perfection is achieved. What about the other millions that survive the crash and loose limbs, eyes, spinal paralysis etc. Do you ignore their suffering. Until you feel perfection is at hand and 0 accidents occur.
Lets face it. Humans should not be allowed to operate a vehicle. We are far to reckless, distracted, impaired to control thousands of pounds of steel traveling at high speeds. Computers are far better suited for the job.
My belief is the only reason computers are not allowed to autonomously operate a car is no one has determined who can be sued when there is an accident. I feel like we would rather mame and kill millions every year as long as we can point a finger and cash a settlement check.
Lets face it. Humans should not be allowed to operate a vehicle. We are far to reckless, distracted, impaired to control thousands of pounds of steel traveling at high speeds. Computers are far better suited for the job.
My belief is the only reason computers are not allowed to autonomously operate a car is no one has determined who can be sued when there is an accident. I feel like we would rather mame and kill millions every year as long as we can point a finger and cash a settlement check.
That We, Robot demo was widely panned on social media. Apparently the Optimi were being at least partially remote controlled by human operators. As in the famous Wizard of Oz, pay attention to the person behind the curtain.
Here’s a lesson we AI researchers have learned over the past 50 years of trying to make machines smart. Paradoxically the easiest tasks are the hardest to automate. The ones that AI cracked first, like beating the world chess champion, turned out to be surprisingly easy. Similarly the Nobel prize in chemistry this year went to two AI researchers from Google who basically trained a huge neural network to figure out how proteins fold into 3D structures. That problem was incredibly hard for humans to solve but apparently not so hard for machines. AlphaFold, the neural network, has cracked the structure of 200 million proteins. Humans used to get Nobel prizes for discovering one structure!
Think of tasks you do everyday around your house without apparently any effort. Folding your clothes, stacking your dishwasher, setting the table for dinner, chatting with a friend in a noisy restaurant, etc. We discovered the hard way that these tasks are incredibly hard to automate. Initially an MIT professor assigned a grad student the task of getting a computer to see. He figured it would take the student a summer to solve it. It took 50-60 years and even now computer vision is no match for human vision. The best image to text models make embarrassing errors. If you change one pixel in an image of a panda, imperceptibly so that humans would not notice, computers get baffled and claim it’s something else entirely.
One reason I don’t trust FSD. I know too much of what goes on under the hood!
FSD is available with the most recent update in the S,Y and 3. Also Summon is available in the most recent update.
FSD is so much better but with the update but it has one of the inside cameras watching to be sure your hands are around the steering wheel otherwise you get reported to big brother.
Latest updates also have automatic opening of frunk and trunk if you stand in front or behind the car with your mobile device and Tesla app always open. It can be set to ignore this feature when at home.
You would have us become like the humans in Wallye, eh? The obesity part is nearly there already!
I will take a computer over 70-90 year old drivers any day of the week, slow reflexes and bad eye sight/ hearing make them drive unpredictable/ dangerous. This problem is prevalent in Florida, the older they get, the larger the Cadillac, and they all hit the brakes instantly on Interstate Highways when it starts raining . They get rooted out better in Europe where most Countries have extra tests once you hit a certain age.
I just got a new car…with a manualI will take a computer over 70-90 year old drivers any day of the week, slow reflexes and bad eye sight/ hearing make them drive unpredictable/ dangerous. This problem is prevalent in Florida, the older they get, the larger the Cadillac, and they all hit the brakes instantly on Interstate Highways when it starts raining . They get rooted out better in Europe where most Countries have extra tests once you hit a certain age.
…computers need not apply…
