GIK 242's aren't all that absorptive, but most (all?) listeners find that if you are going to treat first reflection points it should be diffusion, not absorption, or perhaps a mixture.
Diffusion would the exception, not the norm.
GIK 242's aren't all that absorptive, but most (all?) listeners find that if you are going to treat first reflection points it should be diffusion, not absorption, or perhaps a mixture.
Not if you are looking for the sound most listeners actually prefer. Ask Nyal or virtually any other acoustic designer how often they put only absorption at first reflection points.Diffusion would the exception, not the norm.
Not if you are looking for the sound most listeners actually prefer. Ask Nyal or virtually any other acoustic designer how often they put only absorption at first reflection points.
http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showthread.php?18509-Media-Room-Acoustics
IMHO No card carrying audiophile is ever content, there is always wiggle room for that extra few % you know is there..and you swear its your last upgrade for ever!!!
Depends on your room size, I couldn't imagine putting diffusion in a shoebox-like sized room at 1st reflection points..
Diffusion will make the side walls seem to disappear and create a wider soundstage, which can be desirable if the room is narrow.
The current thinking is that strong lateral reflections can increase the sensation of spaciousness, and that a good loudspeaker will have a flat on axis response and smooth and even off axis response which mimics the on axis.
Not dipoles!
Keith
Now y'all have me confused. Which has the acoustic effect of making the side walls "disappear"? Absorption or diffusion?
I always thought, at least for dipole speakers, that the answer is absorption.
(And I am hoping the answer is well-settled and is not controversial.)
The current thinking is that strong lateral reflections can increase the sensation of spaciousness, and that a good loudspeaker will have a flat on axis response and smooth and even off axis response which mimics the on axis.
Not dipoles!
Keith
Dipoles produce as much energy backwards as they do forwards, with almost no off axis response, they measure extremely poorly.
Perhaps it is the reflected rear energy that your are hearing?
Keith.
Not if you are looking for the sound most listeners actually prefer. Ask Nyal or virtually any other acoustic designer how often they put only absorption at first reflection points.
http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showthread.php?18509-Media-Room-Acoustics
Dipoles produce as much energy backwards as they do forwards, with almost no off axis response, they measure extremely poorly.
Perhaps it is the reflected rear energy that your are hearing?
Keith.
No, it went down the tubes when it was suggested that once you are basically satisfied with your system and are only looking to tweak it, you are not an audiophile. That moniker apparently is reserved for only those who continue to spend money on the next best piece of gear. What a croc!and another thread goes down the tubes due to the measurement posse.
No, it went down the tubes when it was suggested that once you are basically satisfied with your system and are only looking to tweak it, you are not an audiophile. That moniker apparently is reserved for only those who continue to spend money on the next best piece of gear. What a croc!
this totally depends on the room. Rives had me use absorption at first reflections and they were definitely diffusion fans.
No, it went down the tubes when it was suggested that once you are basically satisfied with your system and are only looking to tweak it, you are not an audiophile. That moniker apparently is reserved for only those who continue to spend money on the next best piece of gear. What a croc!
No. There is a musicophile, audiophile, etc. How do you differentiate the people on this forum from someone who is simply satisfied with ipod and earphones and knows more about music than many on this forum? What differentiates the people on this forum is that they are into gear. That is the only differentiating factor. There are a lot of people into music and satisfied with their home Bose system or less, who are not on such forums, so that is not a differentiating factor.
No. There is a musicophile, audiophile, etc. How do you differentiate the people on this forum from someone who is simply satisfied with ipod and earphones and knows more about music than many on this forum? What differentiates the people on this forum is that they are into gear. That is the only differentiating factor. There are a lot of people into music and satisfied with their home Bose system or less, who are not on such forums, so that is not a differentiating factor.
You keep on making this false contrast that doesn't exist. What if people are neither satisfied with ipod and earphones nor a Bose system, but are simply satisfied with their more or less advanced audiophile systems, and not immediately into new gear?