Hint of new Magico products

[LL21]

I heard the M project today at Rhapsody in the Netherlands and it was astonishing!

The equipment consisted of TAD pre/amp and Aurender streamer, not sure what cables though.

The store was packed the first half of my 4 hour visit. Its not easy to review and get the tonal quality of one certain component. You need to be acoustomed to the sound of the equipement, the acoustics and the material. But immediately I heard an exceptionally grain free top range with dynamics I have never heard before, completed with deep, dynamic and massive deep end (when called for). This was certainly much better than my Q5s.

Did I mention the looks? The mighty Ms surpasses another great looking speaker, the S.F. Aida , by far! It also looks much better live than any pictures I have seen. The carbon sides, the curved cabinet and really deep/thick front combined with the very nice feets. I was blown away! I am now really looking forward to get mine delivered

Great post...and congrats on getting a pair!!! Look forward to reading your posts when they arrive. Most curious as to the rest of your system that you will be using to drive these speakers...congrats again.

 

[Tand]

Great post...and congrats on getting a pair!!! Look forward to reading your posts when they arrive. Most curious as to the rest of your system that you will be using to drive these speakers...congrats again.

Thank you I like big SS amps and streaming myself, so I use Krell MRA & 202, Linn Klimax Ds/1, Galileo LE ac ic sc and the Galileo LE Powercell on my Q5s. I am very happy with this combo today

 

[Tand]

Some pictures

 

[Tand]

 

[LL21]

Thank you I like big SS amps and streaming myself, so I use Krell MRA & 202, Linn Klimax Ds/1, Galileo LE ac ic sc and the Galileo LE Powercell on my Q5s. I am very happy with this combo today

That is fantastic...the mighty Krell MRA! I have also heard the Klimax briefly many years ago.

 

[Tand]

And last but certanly not least. Harry, the owner of Rhapsody. Thanks for leting us come by.

 

[EricDH]

Very interesting info tand! For me (never heard the Q7) the Q5 is the absolute reference. Exciting that such a big step forward is still possible.

So you made the trip all the way from Oslo to Hilversum to hear the M projects? Glad you liked the speakers so very much. And indeed, Rhapsody is a very good shop. One of the best in the Netherlands, and one of the two who could do such a presentation.

 

[Tand]

The Q5s is still a great speaker by all means. But the M Project is just better, on all areas. The first thing who struck me was the resolution, it almost felt like there was too much going on in the top. But after 4 hour listening at avrage 95 dbs, we still were clear in our minds and had no feeling of listening fatique. The new tweeter is electrostat/planer like in its performance and is probably the best I have heard!

Yes, I took the trip. Back and fort on the same day. My dealer here in Norway gave me a ticket, the christmas came early this year .

Agree, a great shop and a charismatic, funny and down to earth owner. Great guy!

 

[MadFloyd]

The Q5s is still a great speaker by all means. But the M Project is just better, on all areas. The first thing who struck me was the resolution, it almost felt like there was too much going on in the top. But after 4 hour listening at avrage 95 dbs, we still were clear in our minds and had no feeling of listening fatique. The new tweeter is electrostat/planer like in its performance and is probably the best I have heard!

Yes, I took the trip. Back and fort on the same day. My dealer here in Norway gave me a ticket, the christmas came early this year .

tand, thanks so much for the photos. Interesting that you say it sounded like there was too much energy on top, I had heard a report that said the tweeter was so natural sounding that it was like it wasn't there. Maybe it's a difference in the electronics.

I have a couple questions if you don't mind answering them.

In the 2nd photo, it looks like there is a covering on top of the carbon fiber... there seems to be a small gap between the front and the side where the carbon is NOT glossy - making it look like the sides might be temporariliy protected with a wrap of some sort - is that just the lighting?

Would you say the overall tonal balance of the M Project is closer to the Q or the S series (or in the middle)?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Tand]

tand, thanks so much for the photos. Interesting that you say it sounded like there was too much energy on top, I had heard a report that said the tweeter was so natural sounding that it was like it wasn't there. Maybe it's a difference in the electronics.

I have a couple questions if you don't mind answering them.

In the 2nd photo, it looks like there is a covering on top of the carbon fiber... there seems to be a small gap between the front and the side where the carbon is NOT glossy - making it look like the sides might be temporariliy protected with a wrap of some sort - is that just the lighting?

Would you say the overall tonal balance of the M Project is closer to the Q or the S series (or in the middle)?

Thanks in advance.

Hi MadFloyd

As english is my second langugage, the liguistic nuancens it not easy to communicate in written form, sorry for that. What I meant is the (for me) unheard level of resolution gave an impresion that the tonal qualitys were tuned to be bright, but as you say in the english language - the proof is in the pudding, as in we were able to listen without the sense of fatique for 4 hours. The M Project is an absolut master piece in my ears, it got it all, resolution, dynamics and gorgeous design!

In the 2. photo, yes - its only the light. The end of the carbon is rounded towards the front plate.

I would say neither, but it got the Q dna, absolutly. The resolution of the M is higher, giving it more "black" and more "light" if you understand me.

Tommy

 

[MadFloyd]

Hi MadFloyd

As english is my second langugage, the liguistic nuancens it not easy to communicate in written form, sorry for that. What I meant is the (for me) unheard level of resolution gave an impretion that the tonal qualitys were tuned to be bright, but as you say in the english language - the proof is in the pudding, as in we were able to listen without the sense of fatique for 4 hours. The M Project is an absolut master peice in my ears, it got it all, resolution, dynamics and gorgeous design!

In the 2. photo, yes - its only the light. The end of the carbon is rounded towards the front plate.

I would say neither, but it got the Q dna, absolutly. The resolution of the M is higher, giving it more "black" and more "light" if you understand me.

Tommy

Thank you very much, Tommy.

 

[Mark Jones]

Thanks for the update Tand.

By the sound of all the reports coming in the Big M's are going to be incredible. I wish I could just keep my second pair I have coming in but I better be smart and sell the to some lucky owner.

Hmmm what if I just keep em for a few months!

 

[nirodha]

I heard the M project today at Rhapsody in the Netherlands and it was astonishing!

The equipment consisted of Aurender W20 streamer, dCS Vivaldi cd+dac, TAD M600, C600 Pre, AudioQuest WEL Signature cabel

The store was packed the first half of my 4 hour visit. Its not easy to review and get the tonal quality of one certain component. You need to be acoustomed to the sound of the equipement, the acoustics and the material. But immediately I heard an exceptionally grain free top range with dynamics I have never heard before, completed with deep, dynamic and massive deep end (when called for). This was certainly much better than my Q5s.

Did I mention the looks? The mighty Ms surpasses another great looking speaker, the S.F. Aida , by far! It also looks much better live than any pictures I have seen. The carbon sides, the curved cabinet and really deep/thick front combined with the very nice feets. I was blown away! I am now really looking forward to get mine delivered

I was there today. The speaker is gorgeous! The session did not replace my number one listening experience ever: the Q7 with Zanden and the total dCS stack. But this was not (!) the M-projects fault. The TADs are powerful but not the top in resolution. Leaving out the wordclock in the dCS stack was also a pity. And streaming audio...is really not up to par with a top notch complete dCS stack. Still...the M project and the Q7....all I can do is dream for I will never be able to afford them.

 

[cannata]

tand, thanks so much for the photos. Interesting that you say it sounded like there was too much energy on top, I had heard a report that said the tweeter was so natural sounding that it was like it wasn't there. Maybe it's a difference in the electronics.

I have a couple questions if you don't mind answering them.

In the 2nd photo, it looks like there is a covering on top of the carbon fiber... there seems to be a small gap between the front and the side where the carbon is NOT glossy - making it look like the sides might be temporariliy protected with a wrap of some sort - is that just the lighting?

Would you say the overall tonal balance of the M Project is closer to the Q or the S series (or in the middle)?

Thanks in advance.

I heard the MPro in Paris last week. I have to say, it was quite an event for me, as the experience was so profound, I am having a hard time listening to mY “modest” system now. This was truly the most emotionally involving musical presentation I have ever heard and that includes many live performances I attend on a regular basis. I can go on and on, but I would like to say, in regards to Tommy remarks, that I actually though the speakers were dark sounding in the beginning. Yet, I could clearly hear things I never heard before, and that is on recording I am very familiar with. It took some moments to wrap my head around that. So it was not the tonal balance, but the lack of the usual tweeter artifacts that was absent that caused my first reaction to think they were dark sounding. After you listen for some time you realize that they are neither dark or bright. They are so natural sounding that using our “regular” vocabulary to judge sound may not be sufficient here.
Truly a revelation… So depressing, has I have no idea how one can go about obtaining this experience with somewhat “modest” means. I sure hope Magico will be able to bring this new amazing sound to lower priced models.

 

[MadFloyd]

The reports are overall very positive for this new Magico product. The only negative report (if you call this negative) that I've seen to date was on another forum (posted today):

"Today I went for a demo show of the Magico M project (playing with TAD mono blocks, pre-amp, DCS Vivaldi transport/DAC and Aurender W20 streamer), to be honest I was a bit underwhelmed. Tonally I could not fault it but somehow I was not drawn into the music."

I can't wait to hear the M's and see what trickles down from them.

 

[Tand]

I think the M Project might be so transparent that the difference we hear are whats going on earlier in the chain of equipement. In much higher degree than what we are used to. Just my 2 cents.

 

[MadFloyd]

I think the M Project might be so transparent that the difference we hear are whats going on earlier in the chain of equipement. In much higher degree than what we are used to. Just my 2 cents.

You're probably right, Tommy. Let's hope you still like your electronics once you get your M's!

 

[Tand]

I hope so myself

 

[DEV]

Thanks for the update Tand.

By the sound of all the reports coming in the Big M's are going to be incredible. I wish I could just keep my second pair I have coming in but I better be smart and sell the to some lucky owner.

Hmmm what if I just keep em for a few months!

Do you have a pair already to listen too? If so what are they paired up with and how many hours on them.

 

[PeterA]

I think the M Project might be so transparent that the difference we hear are whats going on earlier in the chain of equipement. In much higher degree than what we are used to. Just my 2 cents.

I actually think that can already be said about Magico speakers in general, perhaps some models more than others. The M Project seems to be even more transparent. I just saw another photo of a Q3. It is striking how much more curved the front baffle is on the M and how much closer the woofer edges come to the edge of the baffle compared to the Q3 which looks like there is still a fair amount of space around each woofer.

I can't wait to see the M in person because I don't think any photos have yet captured what it really looks like.