I have been getting into Mozart

Kingrex

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Netflix has a show about the Mozart family. I have watched 2/3rds of it twice. My wife keeps falling asleep so I turn it off. Anyhow, It's a fun story that peaked my interest. It got me into looking at his greatest works and moving out from their. I am soon to start going from his early to later works.

It also solidifies why I saw Joel Durand has his classical by age, not composer. I am more curious now to see what each composers influence was on the next generation. I wonder how much classical changed over hundreds of years. Rock changed quite a bit in 60 years. I wonder if we will ever see a great rock band again.

By the way, what or who is the starting point of classical music.
 

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Hurrian Hymn No. 6, c.1400 BC from my limited research.
 
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It got me into looking at his greatest works and moving out from their. I am soon to start going from his early to later works.
You can do worse than to get the early Barenboim / English Chamber Orchestra edition of Mozart's piano concertos. It's available here but I'm sure it's also downloadable at better resolution somewhere
 

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Why do people learn music composition? Is it to write movie scores. Outside that, it does not seem there is a big enough market for new classical music.
 

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Why do people learn music composition? Is it to write movie scores. Outside that, it does not seem there is a big enough market for new classical music.
most musicians want some degree of grounding in composition. performing has a creative aspect of which the language of composition is a part.

why are any arts taught in schools? lots of art/music/dance majors never make a living in that field, it statistically is not a reliable way to make a living, yet has value to society. and we are better for it.

sure, some of it is related to movies, and gaming, and even marketing. the more commercial side. but art is a legit part of culture and worthy of being part of education. that is my opinion.
 
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most musicians want some degree of grounding in composition. performing has a creative aspect of which the language of composition is a part.
I wonder how many rockers, pop, country etc have taken a class in composition.
 

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I wonder how many rockers, pop, country etc have taken a class in composition.
My room designer, Chris Huston, went to art school (Liverpool College of Art) with John Lennon.

Miles Davis went to Julliard.

assume composition was part of the curriculum. do they count?
 
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I'm sure a few greats did. Maybe many of them. I'm curious of the more new to fame people, say in the last 20 years. How many of those musicians took composition and how many felt it helped them. And the up and comers. Do they care.
I have seen video of Paul McCartney sitting at the keyboard writing notes. But those are the greats. My perception from a very outside view is the new talent wants to know how to use a beat box and make music in their bed rooms. Do they even need to know how to scribe music. For the most part, we are taking other peoples works and modifying it. As the Mozart show noted, Mozart never veered to far from what people felt was normal at the time. He stayed close to what they could relate too.
Maybe ask Joel some time who he sees taking the classes. And has any famous talent been through his classes?

As another aside, I tried to find video on Beethoven yesterday. I did not find anything interesting. The Mozart piece is much better. And I really should just stick to Mozart. Even breaking down a piece like Symphony No 41 Jupiter, I find Movement 2 to be intoxicating. I like more subtle and flowing works. I do like Tchaikovsky, but his raucous up and down in intensity can be distracting. When I get into a classical piece, I sometimes lean in and listen to all the details. Blasts of everything throw me out of the trance.
 

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If u want to get into Mozart, I suggest getting the Phillips Complete Mozart Edition
180 cds of all of his works.
I have enjoyed this box set like forever....
 
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Now I'm on a slight bend. I bought some records and ended up with a Beethoven, Gleen Gould playing Concerto No1. I don't know when Jazz was suppose to have started, but there are definitely Jazz lines in that track. Beethoven was very cutting edge.
 

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