damn that's a lot of weight. Hope your extra bracing under the floor works!!
I said I would never buy another Turntable...Argh !!!
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Christian
I am curious as to the lack of any toe in on the set up. How do you get the drivers to focus on your sitting position
I am curious as to the lack of any toe in on the set up. How do you get the drivers to focus on your sitting position
Your room looks spaciously airy Christian. Must be so comfortable to be in and a nirvana for listening to music. Best part is it is a living and listening room. I envy you.
Tang
Live DAT transfer station from tape to file and parametric EQ used to tame some uncompressed live digital recordings when needed.
I’m still working that out Steve with ears and mind
. This change was suggested by David. I may try a bit of toe to ascertain differences good or bad. As l listen now, it sounds very good, balanced and natural. Full toe like I had Before David arrived yielded bloated/smeared mid bass it seems. In the smaller compressed space, full toe worked well. It is too soon to tell whether this is the final configuration or some combo of light toe and mid/tweet module adjustment. Rollers are staying on speakers until I’m sure what’s best for my situation.
You will have the room you desire my friend....that I am sure of
I’m just starting to listen again. It was a long and painful move. My stereo’s final resting place.
The listening chair is 12’ back, speakers 9’ spread.
Wilson recommends full toe. I really think it all depends on room volume, ceiling height,wall material and room layout. There is an optimal mix of setup position variables with the existing room acoustics that will take quite some time to discover and sort out I think.
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My personal thoughts Christian having owned Wilson speakers for 25 years that you will get better focus and imaging with a slight toe in. Use a laser light to help
The only other caveat is that Wilson stresses the ratio of distance from tweeter to ear divided by the distance from tweeter to tweeter should be between 1.0-1.25
Yours is 1.33 (12/9 =1.33)
Just a thought is to consider that ratio. The only person to prove that wrong to me was asiufy whose ratio when I was there was 0.88 and it sounded fabulous. Your positioning might be improved with a gentle toe in
Mine are 10 feet from tweeter to tweeter and 12 feet from tweeter to ear= 1.2
With a room that size I personally would separate them more. If they are on casters it is an easy experiment
The only other caveat is that Wilson stresses the ratio of distance from tweeter to ear divided by the distance from tweeter to tweeter should be between 1.0-1.25
Yours is 1.33 (12/9 =1.33)
Just a thought is to consider that ratio. The only person to prove that wrong to me was asiufy whose ratio when I was there was 0.88 and it sounded fabulous. Your positioning might be improved with a gentle toe in
Mine are 10 feet from tweeter to tweeter and 12 feet from tweeter to ear= 1.2
With a room that size I personally would separate them more. If they are on casters it is an easy experiment
I will try that. Very easy to experiment with spread distance and toe with rollers on. I will push each speaker out 6” to achieve 10’ spread.
In spite of some manufacturers recommdations I always find straight setup when done right yields much more expansive and natural results. Toe in will give some center focus at the expense of natural airliness and openness filling the the listening space, it’s main advantage is that you get results, ie center fill quickly and with relative ease.I’m still working that out Steve with ears and mind
Before reverting to toe in try moving the speakers back a little to midway on the strip of wood where we left it.
david
Btw, did you have some fun with the snowmobile. Would be fun to see you two on snowmobile with paintball gun going at each other.
Tang
A friend got very similar advice from Manolis of Tune Audio with regards to the setup of his Anima horns and the outcome really worked out much better in the end. I’ve traditionally gone a near field setup with considerable toe in with most speakers so it has become a kind of default approach for me but think I definitely need to explore this approach more, especially with my horns.
Me too, I've locked in to a really expressive, detailed sound sitting 10-11' back w reasonable toe in, time to try my Zus closer to straight on to compare.
Nearfield is no different, it takes a bit longer to zero in the speakers but end result is much more satisfying.
david
I wish, it was snowing all day and it was dark by the time we got done but on the way home I played snowmobil with my friend’s Cayenne and found out that people in upstate NY get mad when you pass themBtw, did you have some fun with the snowmobile. Would be fun to see you two on snowmobile with paintball gun going at each other.
Tang
fast!david
Perhaps David but being outside the magic ratio of 1.25 gives me some pause. Wilson speakers were designed collectively to be set up in the exact same fashion. I also disagree about no toe in. EVERY manual for every Wilson speaker ever made has the same set up guidelines. Are you saying you know better than Dave and how he designed his speakers. If done correctly it is tantamount to only a very slight toe in. Use a laser light as it helps immensely
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