Bruce B
WBF Founding Member, Pro Audio Production Member
damn that's a lot of weight. Hope your extra bracing under the floor works!!
Your room looks spaciously airy Christian. Must be so comfortable to be in and a nirvana for listening to music. Best part is it is a living and listening room. I envy you.System including AS2000 and the 1000lb Nothing rack is installed. Also worthy of note, I no longer toe the Wilsons in. The entire room now has good sound...not just the “DFC” seat. Will be taking better pics for DDK to start a new US base AS2000 thread. Here are some iPhone pics for now. View attachment 49303View attachment 49304View attachment 49305View attachment 49306
P.S. Love the Sony PCM-R500!
Christian
I am curious as to the lack of any toe in on the set up. How do you get the drivers to focus on your sitting position
damn that's a lot of weight. Hope your extra bracing under the floor works!!
You will have the room you desire my friend....that I am sure ofYour room looks spaciously airy Christian. Must be so comfortable to be in and a nirvana for listening to music. Best part is it is a living and listening room. I envy you.
Tang
Great pics Christian, the system is really coming together nicely. How far away are you from the speakers now? Is this what changed the toe in on your speakers?
My personal thoughts Christian having owned Wilson speakers for 25 years that you will get better focus and imaging with a slight toe in. Use a laser light to help
The only other caveat is that Wilson stresses the ratio of distance from tweeter to ear divided by the distance from tweeter to tweeter should be between 1.0-1.25
Yours is 1.33 (12/9 =1.33)
Just a thought is to consider that ratio. The only person to prove that wrong to me was ossify whose ratio when I was there was 0.88 and it sounded fabulous. Your positioning might be improved with a gentle toe in
Mine are 10 feet from tweeter to tweeter and 12 feet from tweeter to ear= 1.2
With a room that size I personally would separate them more. If they are on casters it is an easy experiment
In spite of some manufacturers recommdations I always find straight setup when done right yields much more expansive and natural results. Toe in will give some center focus at the expense of natural airliness and openness filling the the listening space, it’s main advantage is that you get results, ie center fill quickly and with relative ease.I’m still working that out Steve with ears and mind . This change was suggested by David. I may try a bit of toe to ascertain differences good or bad. As l listen now, it sounds very good, balanced and natural. Full toe like I had Before David arrived yielded bloated/smeared mid bass it seems. In the smaller compressed space, full toe worked well. It is too soon to tell whether this is the final configuration or some combo of light toe and mid/tweet module adjustment. Rollers are staying on speakers until I’m sure what’s best for my situation.
Btw, did you have some fun with the snowmobile. Would be fun to see you two on snowmobile with paintball gun going at each other.In spite of some manufacturers recommdations I always find straight setup when done right yields much more expansive and natural results. Toe in will give some center focus at the expense of natural airliness and openness filling the the listening space, it’s main advantage is that you get results, ie center fill quickly and with relative ease.
Before reverting to toe in try moving the speakers back a little to midway on the strip of wood where we left it.
david
In spite of some manufacturers recommdations I always find straight setup when done right yields much more expansive and natural results. Toe in will give some center focus at the expense of natural airliness and openness filling the the listening space, it’s main advantage is that you get results, ie center fill quickly and with relative ease.
Before reverting to toe in try moving the speakers back a little to midway on the strip of wood where we left it.
david
Nearfield is no different, it takes a bit longer to zero in the speakers but end result is much more satisfying.A friend got very similar advice from Manolis of Tune Audio with regards to the setup of his Anima horns and the outcome really worked out much better in the end. I’ve traditionally gone a near field setup with considerable toe in with most speakers so it has become a kind of default approach for me but think I definitely need to explore this approach more, especially with my horns.
I wish, it was snowing all day and it was dark by the time we got done but on the way home I played snowmobil with my friend’s Cayenne and found out that people in upstate NY get mad when you pass them fast!Btw, did you have some fun with the snowmobile. Would be fun to see you two on snowmobile with paintball gun going at each other.
Tang
In spite of some manufacturers recommdations I always find straight setup when done right yields much more expansive and natural results. Toe in will give some center focus at the expense of natural airliness and openness filling the the listening space, it’s main advantage is that you get results, ie center fill quickly and with relative ease.
Before reverting to toe in try moving the speakers back a little to midway on the strip of wood where we left it.
david
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