Is the high end gear driven or source driven?

[asiufy]

Three words:

Remastered for iTunes

There them sausages my friend

ˆˆ what he said, plus there's plenty of "remasters" out there that are nothing more than quick'n'dirty compressor jobs to make things LOUDER. Oh, and let's not forget the abundance of "box sets" these days. Every band and album these days is worth of a "boxed set", "remastered" too...

 

[Mike Lavigne]

for a few years one of my very favorite cuts was 'Old Man' and 'Needle and the Damage Done' off Neil Young's Greatest Hits' from Classic Records. it was the very best pressing i've heard of these 2 cuts. i played them all the time. i even have a 15ips 1/4" master dub of Harvest and these cuts were better. i had second copy of this album but it was from a second pressing and did not sound nearly as good.

one day i miss-handled the record and gouged both of those cuts. i was sick about it. that was three years ago. i'm still sick about it. i've purchased 3 more used copies of this record trying to find the same pressing. no luck. the copies are identical with the same etching in the dead wax. i still play other cuts from that 2 record set. but at least once a week i clearly 'miss' those 2 cuts.

in the last 5 years that is the only record i have 'hurt'. and it is very frustrating. like an itch you cannot scratch.

we can always fix gear, or buy another. but the music is precious.

 

[Robh3606]

For you classic rockers out there I just got ELP's first and Tarkus on DVDA, Rush 2112, Jethro Tull Thick as a Brick as examples in the last 2 months. There are titles being remastered that are not about just loudness and I Tunes.

Rob

 

[NorthStar]

for a few years one of my very favorite cuts was 'Old Man' and 'Needle and the Damage Done' off Neil Young's Greatest Hits' from Classic Records. it was the very best pressing i've heard of these 2 cuts. i played them all the time. i even have a 15ips 1/4" master dub of Harvest and these cuts were better. i had second copy of this album but it was from a second pressing and did not sound nearly as good.

one day i miss-handled the record and gouged both of those cuts. i was sick about it. that was three years ago. i'm still sick about it. i've purchased 3 more used copies of this record trying to find the same pressing. no luck. the copies are identical with the same etching in the dead wax. i still play other cuts from that 2 record set. but at least once a week i clearly 'miss' those 2 cuts.

in the last 5 years that is the only record i have 'hurt'. and it is very frustrating. like an itch you cannot scratch.

we can always fix gear, or buy another. but the music is precious.

---- Says it all, right above there.

 

[Gregadd]

This piece is taken from the album The Pointer Sisters by the Pointer Sisters. I'm not a musician but this selection appears a challenging section for singers and musicians. It also particular demanding. PRaT is lost on all but the best systems. Articulation is also elusive. On the best systems each note and word is clealry discernible. Macro and micro dynamics are readily apparent.

Order a copy and give it a spins.

http://www.starpulse.com/Music/Pointer_Sisters,_The/Discography/album/P5161/R15464/

 

[NorthStar]

-- "Macro and micro dynamics ...".? :b

 

[Gregadd]

Microdynamics and macrodynamics are two terms coined by HP formerly of tas. They refer to the perceived loudness variations between musical notes. Some are large variations and some are small. I did not find the terms in a dictionary.

 

[microstrip]

-- "Macro and micro dynamics ...".? :b

Bob,
Please do not tell us that you still have doubts after our brilliant efforts debating these terms at WBF?

 

[NorthStar]

-- True, Harry Pearson also uses the terms (I forgot about Harry).
* They are in the "Audio" dictionary Greg.

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No Micro, I was simply expressing humor. ...The two 'audio terms' are part of my vocabulary, but it was very very interesting our discussion about that, and the various meanings that they could have for different 'audiophile' people.

 

[Gregadd]

1. "Dr. Jive (Part I)" Clarke 2:15
2. "Butterfly Dreams" Potter Clarke 6:59
3. "Dindi" De Oliveira Jobim 5:50
4. "Summer Night" Warren, Dubin 6:23
5. "Love Reborn" Purim Duke 3:40
6. "Moon Dreams" Livingston, Evans Gismonti 4:59
7. "Dr. Jive (Part II)" Clarke 3:41
8. "Light as a Feather" Purim Clarke 5:44
[edit]Personnel

Flora Purim - vocals, arranger
Joe Henderson - flute, tenor saxophone
George Duke - electric and acoustic piano, clavinet, synthesizer
David Amaro - electric and acoustic guitar
Ernie Hood - zither
Stanley Clarke - electric and acoustic bass
Airto Moreira - drums, percussion

The cut Butterfly Dreams presents quite a challenge for a stereo. Microdynamics galore.

 

[Gregadd]

RaY Brown with the double Bass