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So a very interesting thing happened to me today and it made me a big crazy for a few hours until I figured out with a little bit of luck.
I had the Typhon t30 plugged into an outlet that was not behind my equipment stand because that outlet had not been changed to the Shunyata outlets I am using in my sound rooms. They replaced that yesterday afternoon and today I moved the power cord over and turned the gear back and let it play for a few hours and after lunch I went into listen and work on it a little.
The systems sounded different and different as in worse not better. This made little sense since the extension cord can't be better than going direct with the Shunyata Sigma directly into the wall. The system was compressed and it harsh and it never sounds that way. At first I thought well maybe its just me today so I did some more work went over to the door locked it and turned off the lights in the front and the hallway. I walked into the sound room and the gear was off. I turned the switch on and it went on. Well we did not know that the outlet was a switched one and on the same circuit as my lights. I quickly removed that and went back to the previous hook up and viola !!
I'm not sure yet but I think this room is going to be better than the last one. It has higher ceilings even though its dropped and the shape is a bit different. Its was killing it this afternoon and I have a few tricks left in the bag that I haven't gotten to yet.
On another note the Riviera gear never ceases to amaze me and over the last few days I have listened to the big Gryphons/mono's and the Big VAC mono's and the D'agostino Relentless and Mono's and I am not trading what I have for any of those.
They are truly special and I've heard nothing yet that comes close.
I had the Typhon t30 plugged into an outlet that was not behind my equipment stand because that outlet had not been changed to the Shunyata outlets I am using in my sound rooms. They replaced that yesterday afternoon and today I moved the power cord over and turned the gear back and let it play for a few hours and after lunch I went into listen and work on it a little.
The systems sounded different and different as in worse not better. This made little sense since the extension cord can't be better than going direct with the Shunyata Sigma directly into the wall. The system was compressed and it harsh and it never sounds that way. At first I thought well maybe its just me today so I did some more work went over to the door locked it and turned off the lights in the front and the hallway. I walked into the sound room and the gear was off. I turned the switch on and it went on. Well we did not know that the outlet was a switched one and on the same circuit as my lights. I quickly removed that and went back to the previous hook up and viola !!
I'm not sure yet but I think this room is going to be better than the last one. It has higher ceilings even though its dropped and the shape is a bit different. Its was killing it this afternoon and I have a few tricks left in the bag that I haven't gotten to yet.
On another note the Riviera gear never ceases to amaze me and over the last few days I have listened to the big Gryphons/mono's and the Big VAC mono's and the D'agostino Relentless and Mono's and I am not trading what I have for any of those.
They are truly special and I've heard nothing yet that comes close.
I have a couple of questions regarding the Shunyata Typhon T30. Are you plugging the Riviera amps into it and then into the wall outlet? Based on your description of the wall outlets in the room, can I assume the power cord from the T30 to the wall is a conventional 20A, 3 prong plug? Thanks
there are a few ways to use the T30. Since I am a store and do change things around from time to time I am using it in a way that makes that possible but not the best method. Let me explain.
I am using a dedicated power cable that uses an amphenol connector from the t 30 to the wall. This is made for it by Shunyata. I am then using two Sigma Power cords from the Riviera amps to the T-30.
The best method with most power transfer would be to use a dedicated output power cable amphenol to female IEC directly to your amp or amps. You can use for the ultimate one T30 in this configuration for each mono which I am using in some clients who have some huhe mono amps.
I am using Shunyata outlets as well in my rooms, I just installed them in the new place.
I hope that helps
In short your saying the power to your rack was routed through a switch. And it sounded horrible.
I had a client, also a dealer who had his power redone per my spec. The installer screwed up and cut a neutral too short and spliced it with a wire nut. A week later the electrician had to return and the client made him reconfigure the panel so the wire nut could be removed and the neutral routed direct to the neutral bar. He said the improvement was immediate and an order of magnitude. These are examples of why I say, one CB, one wire to one duplex. Even better, bring the romex wire up and out the wall, put a female IEC on the end and forgo the duplex and expensive power cord. It will sound better and save you thousands using plain old Romex. But, that is not NEC compliant.
If you have to splice or use a double duplex, it should be like this image. Of course you tape it when done.
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How do you insulate it against short circuits or ground faults using shrink tubing with adhesive inside to prevent corrosion? Or another way. I'd like to know how this is done in other countries. Thanks.
You mean like this. This is a splice that is making a sort of direct wire from the box to a power strip. It would be even better to not break the wire and do as you suggest. Put tech flex over the wire and use a squeeze connector from a surface extension box.
My splice is no different than a wire nut when it comes to oxidation. I do use Caig G100 on all connections and splices. I will also wrap teflon plumbers tape first, then nylon tape. Or liquid tape first. Let it dry for a day, rhen wrap with nylon tape.
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Ok..we use heatshrinking tube with glue 100% waterproof. In the past they use spezial wirewrap technic I don't know if it's legal to install flexible single-core wires in the piping system in the USA. It was permitted in older buildings to renew the cables in Germany.
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The ceilings are over 11 foot tall and I am not going to do anything to them. I am going to make my room sound good but building the perfect room honestly isn't my goal and not required to run a store. The room sounds really good right now with some Art Novion panels I ordered and installed in the front, side walls and rear to help with primary reflections. I am happy with the results at this time but if requires some adjustments Ill see about that as we go along.
My other smaller room will be used as a single speaker demo room, which means one speaker at a time and every other speaker I have is outside the space. I will see how that sounds when I am ready however I don't expect any serious issues.
There is a balance that I want to achieve so that it is fair to those who listen and not completely over the top where no one could deal with the space.
I saw a video this morning and no matter how good the speakers sound I don't see too many that would do their space to look like that. That is not my target audience
My other smaller room will be used as a single speaker demo room, which means one speaker at a time and every other speaker I have is outside the space. I will see how that sounds when I am ready however I don't expect any serious issues.
There is a balance that I want to achieve so that it is fair to those who listen and not completely over the top where no one could deal with the space.
I saw a video this morning and no matter how good the speakers sound I don't see too many that would do their space to look like that. That is not my target audience
Sitting in here right now and I’m really happy with the result
I have a few final tricks but I need some help with that and that won’t happen till next week . I can’t do them without help
I have a few final tricks but I need some help with that and that won’t happen till next week . I can’t do them without help
I think that this room is going to provide better sound than my last one probably based on the higher ceilings and a solid non carpeted floor. It seems that every time I set the stuff up I get it better so maybe that has something to do with it as well.
I will say this that no show ever sounds like this and never will. My expectations are that it will still get better as I install my last few things and tighten up all the parameters that final small increments that just take time and persistence.
I will say this that no show ever sounds like this and never will. My expectations are that it will still get better as I install my last few things and tighten up all the parameters that final small increments that just take time and persistence.
Spent a few hours today working on the system. Friday afternoons are quiet.
I’m about 95 percent there the system is really working . The smaller and smaller adjustments are time consuming but collectively that are worth it. I hope to finish next week when I have some help
Some things require two people .
The you are there is there
Today was time to see what we got and to that end
Respighi Feste Romano Loren Maazel and the Cleveland orchestra
A sonic ball buster on every level from soft to loud from small to huge and everything inbetween
Just listened to the whole thing an old favorite of HP that he turned me on too and I loved it ever since
Its almost almost soup
Just a little more to do
Respighi Feste Romano Loren Maazel and the Cleveland orchestra
A sonic ball buster on every level from soft to loud from small to huge and everything inbetween
Just listened to the whole thing an old favorite of HP that he turned me on too and I loved it ever since
Its almost almost soup
Just a little more to do
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