KeithR's "Dream Speaker" Search

[Joe P]

 

[Hi-FiGuy]

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I just did the same thing on another post and then my next click was this lol

 

[morricab]

Ok, sure Steve.

Brad

What you fail to see is the comment you posted about a siufy. It was in poor taste. And frankly looking at the speakers you are recommending for Keith they don't seem to be available in the USA[/QUOTE]
Dear Steve,
I think you misunderstood my short reply . Ok, sure meant I will abide by the site policies. That said, Al.M made a similar comment to me and it was deleted as well...where’s the rebuke for him?

Regarding speaker recommendations, I don’t live in the US so I am not aware of what is or is not available, I am just providing what I think are good options in his price range.

 

[Audiophile Bill]

I was not commenting on Brad post, just your own short comment - "The latter is quite obviously in favour of horns though. "

So now you don’t like plain facts. You spend most of your forum posts being a pedant on facts - weird.

 

[Al M.]

Dear Steve,
I think you misunderstood my short reply . Ok, sure meant I will abide by the site policies. That said, Al.M made a similar comment to me and it was deleted as well...where’s the rebuke for him?

Sheesh. I was pointing out the arrogance of your post with my reply. Apparently this wasn't obvious to you.

 

[morricab]

Sheesh. I was pointing out the arrogance of your post with my reply. Apparently this wasn't obvious to you.

Whatever, Al. And you felt it was your place point this out?? Now that's arrogant...

 

[Ron Resnick]

THAT’S ENOUGH!

Please focus directly on the purpose of this thread, or refrain from posting on this thread!

 

[sujay]

Which single drivers are you referring to?

THe modded Altec, the vintage tannoy and a custom made ‘ lowther like’ single driver made with exotic Japanese paper. In fact the vintage tannoy I heard sounded awful

 

[sujay]

In my view, the lack of coherence of multi drivers is quite overstated. It does make for a good argument/discussion. But for all practical purposes, the top of the line brands have got it so close that it doesn’t matter....imo. Of course, it’s quite demanding on amplification so the caveat is that the amplification needs to be right. Actually, I have heard the vintage tannoy alongside the VR55. Regardless of genre, the VR 55 outclassed the Tannoys in every possible way. Of course, completely different price points though.....

 

[bonzo75]

THe modded Altec, the vintage tannoy and a custom made ‘ lowther like’ single driver made with exotic Japanese paper. In fact the vintage tannoy I heard sounded awful

Sorry I thought you heard Turnberry?

Which vintage tannoys.

 

[microstrip]

So now you don’t like plain facts. You spend most of your forum posts being a pedant on facts - weird.

I believe that the essence of the debate on high-end is on the details and the implementation, preferences are personnel. There is too much variation to allow broad generalization. For example, a 6dB variation in listening loudness is enough to change completely our perception of dynamics. At some point we must quantify our statements and be precise to allow some progress on the discussion. Or we will always go on misunderstanding other people posts and just saying just mine is better than yours ...

 

[sujay]

Sorry I thought you heard Turnberry?

Which vintage tannoys.

Dont remember now.....it is definitely still in production in their vintage range. I will come back to you with the name.

 

[bonzo75]

Dont remember now.....it is definitely still in production in their vintage range. I will come back to you with the name.

Yes Tunberry. That's not really vintage. Vintage are Black, Silver, Red Gold or HPD drivers - Black being the oldest and that sequence. Black and silver are very rare, and Black, Silver and red are from the mono era, 16 ohms, high sensitivity. Sensitivity reduces from left to right, and impedance falls to 8. Still fairly sensitive. And then are all the Tunberry, Westminster, Canterbury etc with various variations. It is a 70 year old company that changed. So there is vintage and vintage vintage which is not in production, depending on how vintage you want to get

 

[sujay]

I think it was Arden....let me check. Definitely part of their legacy series

 

[Audiophile Bill]

I believe that the essence of the debate on high-end is on the details and the implementation, preferences are personnel. There is too much variation to allow broad generalization. For example, a 6dB variation in listening loudness is enough to change completely our perception of dynamics. At some point we must quantify our statements and be precise to allow some progress on the discussion. Or we will always go on misunderstanding other people posts and just saying just mine is better than yours ...

You are answering a different question again. Don’t worry about it.

 

[Exlibris]

I still think Keith needs to hear either an Odeon 33, Horns Iniversum III or Horning Eufrodite Ellipse. I would also recommend Dynamikks of course but they can’t be found in US. for demo..

What's your take on how the Universum III differs from the Anima in terms of performance?

 

[bonzo75]

What's your take on how the Universum III differs from the Anima in terms of performance?

They are very different sounds. Since you don't listen to classical much (and I guess not jazz that much either) I wouldn't recommend you the uni.

The Anima is higher impact some great timbre. Universum is more transparent, stats like with more bass than stats, and better than the Anima on nuance of violin etc

 

[Exlibris]

They are very different sounds. Since you don't listen to classical much (and I guess not jazz that much either) I wouldn't recommend you the uni.

The Anima is higher impact some great timbre. Universum is more transparent, stats like with more bass than stats, and better than the Anima on nuance of violin etc

I'm guessing the Universum would be better on vocals because it is more nuanced?

 

[hakujin]

IIRC Horning is distributed by High Water Sound in the USA, same as Cessaro.

 

[morricab]

What's your take on how the Universum III differs from the Anima in terms of performance?

Anima is more dramatic sounding but I think Universum is better balanced tonally. Resolution on both is really good but Animas definitely "project" more towards the listener and Universums sit back a bit more...still quite alive sounding but not as in-yer-face. The work well with most music I have heard them with but perhaps classical is better than most horns while Jazz and Rock a bit less than some other horns...a bit what Bonzo was saying but not as extreme as he put it, IMO. That said, I am not sure if I would choose them over Odeon 33s or 38s...I know Christoph would disagree (he had both in the same room and with same electronics) but his room is special (huge and with a lot of glass behind the speakers) and probably the Odeons cope better in a smaller room (they sound awesome in other setups). Both are worth a serious audition but I would lean towards the Universums...