FWIW a WE 274B is now running $2200-$2400John
The tubes are the least of your concerns. They will last a very very long time in the Horizon. If you get the tube rolling disease, it still won't cost you a lot of money, especially compared to the $44K Euro price of the Horizon. They can range from $75 dollars to $1.3k for the likes of a Western Electric 274B tube.
Depends on the tubes you purchase.Some can be quite expensiveWhat is the cost to replace the tubes that come with the Horizon? John
Realism goes up quite a few notches for me. It's a very believable voice with layers of texture. For eg the pac might have 2 inflections in a singing voice, this gives us double the no of inflections. You see more into the sound as an emotional source.What improvements do you hear over the Pac?
And trust me you don't want to just use the stock tubes...it will be a waste..Depends on the tubes you purchase.Some can be quite expensive
A few photos of Munich high-end by courtesy of
Sveda Audio:
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Here is my new Horizon in the lower left hand corner. My Doshi preamp is hidden by the center speaker. Interesting that both Michael and I have horns, although mine are a lot older, 20+ year old Avantgarde Duos. I'm also heavily into analogue, these days really into tape. First listen to the Horizon shows a significant step up from my Pacific, which I really liked. Started listening with the stock tubes (while the Pacific had upgraded PX25s and RK Lampi Anniversary 5U4G rectifier). Just switched to the RK Lampi rectifier and there was another noticable step up. I'll be listening more and comparing to my master and other tapes. Larry
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Go with the copper top. It has a great appearanceAll this input gives (especially someone who has only been involved with Solid State) a better overall perspective, a clearer understanding of what dynamics lie ahead...In regards to which flavor (color). The top on the Silver and mouse Pearl: I wish the photography was better to show each individual Horizon Color. I cannot tell the shade of the white top, I do like the copper top on the Duracell. One should be happy with the Aesthetics. If anyone can shed some light into the 4 color schemes I would be grateful...John
I’ve not heard anything adverse with the horizon nor with the Pacific as I had a copper top as wellI am thinking real copper as well. Does the real copper have any sonic impact or is it just aesthetic?
Hi Thomask,
It sounds nice.
I sent message to DSG, exhibitor of Lampi in Pacific Audiofest whether they will show Horizon or not but no reply yet.
It will be nice if I can have chance to listen to Horizon over there.
As you may know, I have more than 60 different kinds of 6sn7 tubes and variants including 8 paiir of 6f8g, 7f7.
Shootout of Nos 6sn7 tubes
I will have shootout between TS BGRP, RCA vt231, KR vt231, Syl vt231, Raytheon vt 231 and "Bad boy" next weekend. If I get MELZ 6N8S 6SN7 Metal Base next week, then I will also include it in shootout RCA5691, Psavne Acme 300B, Psavne Acme 805 are also being used in Line Magnetic 508...www.whatsbestforum.com
It will be fun to do tube rolling in Horiizon.
Can I get those photos too?Will send you pics of my mouse gray via PM
Rodney, are you undecided still re colorCan I get those photos too?