LampizatOr Horizon - Tube Rolling Paradise

[John T]

I also run my 727 preamp to Gyphon Mephisto monoblocks balanced w XLR. But in my case, I have no choice as the Mephistos only have a balanced input, no RCA. I'd like to do the same experiment, but cannot. Also, since this is SS gear, I think the difference, if there is one, may not be as easy to distinguish. But for a 1 m run between the H360 and the 727, it was an easy experiment to do and the results were easy to hear. It's all good if it makes you smile.

We both have the 727, you have the Gryphon Solo's, me the Mephisto, we both have the 360, I also run Balanced to the Mephisto. I tried doing exactly as you suggested, Cardas Clear Beyond XLR, and RCA Both 1 meter. I also have 1 meter Clear Beyond XLR between the 360 and Solution 727. I always prefer Balanced on the H/360. What I didn't do with this exercise in Single Ended is keep the right bank open.

One caveat; You should not have both SE and XLR coming out of the 360 (outputs) at the same time. I thought the same. Apparently they are NOT independent of each other...

 

[Steve Williams]

We both have the 727, you have the Gryphon Solo's, me the Mephisto, we both have the 360, I also run Balanced to the Mephisto. I tried doing exactly as you suggested, Cardas Clear Beyond XLR, and RCA Both 1 meter. I also have 1 meter Clear Beyond XLR between the 360 and Solution 727. I always prefer Balanced on the H/360. What I didn't do with this exercise in Single Ended is keep the right bank open.

One caveat; You should not have both SE and XLR coming out of the 360 (outputs) at the same time. I thought the same. Apparently they are NOT independent of each other...

I totally agree. It's never both cables from preamp to amp but either SE or XLR

in my amp manual it says in Bold letters never to have both cables into the amp

you also need to try it with the right bank of tubes removed

 

[John T]

I totally agree. It's never both cables from preamp to amp but either SE or XLR

in my amp manual it says in Bold letters never to have both cables into the amp

you also need to try it with the right bank of tubes removed

Agreed, but I was referring to the 360. Either XLR from the 360 to the preamplifier or Single Ended but never both at the same time. I assumed the changing of the inputs in the pre would mitigate this. This is not the case, the output of the 360 is either XLR or SE but shouldn't be connected at the same time. As I mentioned they are not independent of each other...

 

[rspyder]

Hey Marty (our typical Canadian salutation). Thank you for going above and beyond, in both the steps you took to compare SE vs. Balanced operation of the H360 in your system and to explain in simple and cogent terms why SE puts a bigger smile on your face.

I never considered keeping in place my XLR cables between my H360 and preamp and using them as essentially SE wire by simply removing the right bank of tubes. I love elegant solutions. I'll give that a try and report my findings to the group. Kudos, Marty!

Steve, thanks for sharing Lukasz' tip that the right bank pentodes can be left open as a simple way to assess SE operation/sonics. Another reason (in a long list of things) to love the Horizon - for not only it's incredible performance, but its versatility too.

 

[NellTheAkita]

Same here, I have 3 different Lampi DACs at home right now and all of them are performing flawlessly with TP adapters. Also worth mentioning that all of them are really quiet in terms of transformer noise while using rectifiers in TP adapters.

I think our rolling community is quite big, so such unlucky events are not something we can fully avoid, sadly so called NOS tubes are in reality nothing but a roulette.

Hope everything will be resolved in a healthy manner.

 

[Justjazz]

It's been several weeks since I have posted about my Horizon experience. This transcends seeking out the vintage tubes and paying a fortune but I thought would interest Horizon owners who need adapters for their tubes to play in the Horizon or in any Lampizator for that matter

As the saying goes, "everything matters". All I can say is that the TP adaptors by Laszlo and Tibor with associated Star grounding cable are an absolute must. in fact you'll think I'm drinking the Kool Aid when I tell say I'm gobsmacked as to how good these adapters make my system sound.

Laslo is making these now in a standard edition and a Special Edition. If you can spring for the Special Edition Adapter along with his Special Edition Star Grounding Wires do it. They are truly that good. I have adaptors for the Valvo G2504 and Telefunken RGN2004 as well as the TFKN c3g all 3 star grounded to the rear grounding post on the Horizon

Up until today I have been waiting for the final piece to my TP adapter collection ad that was the adapter for my SRS551. I ordered a pair of these in the Special Edition as as well as the Special Edition Star grounding wire. These arrived today from the beautiful city of Budapest and as always impeccably wrapped by Laszlo . Laszlo promised e I would be in for a surprise with these adaptors as they bring out the best in the tubes

It was an absolute understatement as it was listening to a major upgrade in my system as the dynamics were not only there but were there in a tight, articulate fashion. The snap of the stick on the drum skin will give you goose bumps and the sound of the guitar strings was really unexpected. I played my typical demo disc and every song played seemed to bring me closer to the music that ever before

It really is fortuitous that we tube whacko's here at WBF have the good fortune of having Laszlo and Tibor not only provide us with exotic and beautiful tubes and now with the TP Adapters Special Edition and Special Edition ground wire,

I have only listened for a few hours today but enough to know that these adapters are a must have Ultimate Tweak if you are using tubes that need adaptors for your Lampi. Laszlo told me they will sound even better with some hours of burn in. They really are also a work of art and a thing of beauty that complements the look of your Lapi

These adapters are so good that I told Laszlo he should consider making all the standard adapters and he would be rich. Much to his credit, he said he loves his Lampi community and for the moment is enjoying making these only for the tubes we have bee getting from him

Below are some photos

How can I purchase a TP adapter?
Paul

 

[2ndLiner]

How can I purchase a TP adapter?
Paul

Contact Laszlo @takacs75

 

[Justjazz]

Contact Laszlo @takacs75

Thank you

 

[godofwealth]

Ah, we have now moved from tube rolling to adaptor rolling! Perhaps Lampi should cash in on this trend with a new DAC called ARP!

 

[Steve Williams]

How can I purchase a TP adapter?
Paul

Ah, we have now moved from tube rolling to adaptor rolling! Perhaps Lampi should cash in on this trend with a new DAC called ARP!

Feel free to buy one of those cheap Chinese adapters from eBay but if you want reliability and excellent sound you reach out to Laszlo and buy one of his adapters. They are precision made and beautiful to behold but it’s all about the sound and IMO you get the best from his TP adapters

 

[Sampajanna]

TP adapters are the best and he is a great guy!

 

[hifirabbit]

TP adapters are the best and he is a great guy!

100 % agree.
The best adapters you can find and you will not find a better person to buy from.
If you own a Lampi and Exotic NOS tubes, I believe the TP adapters are mandatory and not optional !!

 

[Steve Williams]

100 % agree.
The best adapters you can find and you will not find a better person to buy from.
If you own a Lampi and Exotic NOS tubes, I believe the TP adapters are mandatory and not optional !!

and lets not forget his Star grounding for the Lampt tubes...also mandatory IMHO

 

[seatrope]

Agreed. Extremely pleased with the sonic improvement that @takacs75 's adapters and grounding made to the already stellar Horizon and Horizon360. Highly recommended!