LDMS Server

I would assume huge majority of the population strolling around this forum has never heard about this music server but on the other hand, I for certain know that several of the esteemed members of the forum heard it and also posses it in their systems. Also LDMS as a brand has been participating quite intensively on the HiFi shows last year (Munich, Zurich, Athens, UK) so consumers are slowly but surely getting to know them. I've been introduced to Lukas when I jumped into LampizatOr ship and since we've been quite a lot in contact as he's been a really valuable source of help HiFi wise in general and of course digital source wise.
Having Auralic Aries Femto for quite some time I started to feel that this part of the chain is becoming a weak link and that it is the right time to move fw. Having a chance to hear the LDMS in @christoph system during one of our sessions last autumn, I made a decision to order LDMS with dedicated LPS.
Order was made primarily due to liking of what I've heard and secondly due to the fantastic post sales service he is offering (confirmed from several sides who already use LDMS).
After a long cold winter and with the spring finally coming, last Wednesday Lukas arrived to my place for a nice HiFi weekend with several other guys which was planned for months in advance and installed the long awaiting top model of his server. Entire process of installation went silk smooth - basically plug and play - installed the Roon on my tablet and voila - we've been in business and we could begin with listening sessions.
Before I jump to that, tech spec of the server I don't know and I did not ask - the only thing I know is that it can up sample if needed to DSD512 without any issue. It's Win16 Server based which is of course hard core moded for audio playback and the big portion of the secret sauce is there.
Sound wise honestly everything is just so much better that it's kind of difficult to describe or maybe just saying "so much better" explains it all. Dynamics, conveying of the emotions, soundstage, musician pinpointing, stage as a whole, decay, bass tightness and extension,... you name it - the improvement is there and not by small margin but rather significant.
Maybe things should improve further with some burn in but even if they stay as they are now I'm a super happy customer/owner of LDMS.

Thanks a lot Lukas!

Few pictures for the illustration:

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bonzo75

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You may not care to hear this Kedar but Bill wrote me at the time to confirm what Marc says - the TA dac really can perform out of its skin with a high grade server (SGM in that particular instance). Whether you prefer its solid state presentation is another, and more subjective, matter.

HeiHei - if using HQPlayer, then the full XTR filter on even 128 speed will comfortably outperform any 512 settings. 256 XTR is even better if your server can cope with the heat dissipation. An investment of @£50 and 15 minutes of diy will give the TA a ‘night and day’ level step change improvement.
I doubt bill would have said it outperformed. I am sure the T+A performed well. Either way, I heard what I heard, and I was impressed neither with the dac nor the server then. Surely the server has gone through many iterations since. Also, irrespective off the two, Marc never really did any compares, he left in three mins of the T+a starting. He talked non stop
 

bonzo75

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And for Ked's peace of mind, I thought the Lampi thru Justin's Duettas was simply stellar, may well have beaten the Dac8 had one been about.

Note the "i THOUGHT" thing again. Kinda critical in this hobby.
Actually I don't like his Lampi
 

spiritofmusic

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That's quite something, not impressed w the SGM. Good for you Ked, you won't have to take it to demos like you do yr GG.
 

spiritofmusic

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Mark, don't bother arguing w Ked.
Its not enough for me to say "i THOUGHT...", Ked KNOWS.
You know, personal opinions and all that jazz.
But good to know I wasn't the only one in the room that THOUGHT the Dac8 was stellar thru the SGM. Indeed it was a breakthru day for me to hear how good digital could be. Just not via the GG that day, i THOUGHT.
Well, I was at Geoffrey’s Sound Gallery in Monaco for the presentation of SGM , first version.
He used HQPlayer to upsample Qobuz to 512fs and fed it to DAC 8.
Despite the technical excellence of the presentation I noticed that everything sounded the same.
I prefer native recordings in DSD or hires PCM without any manipulation be it transcoding or upsampling.
So I stick to W20 and buy files on regular base instead of streaming.
LDSE was very close to native files from W20 but the presentation was to short to make the final decision.
I use Aurenders already for nearly 9 years, first S10 and then W20 and for the first time after the presentation of LDSE I will consider seriously the replacement.
SGM and DAC 8 did not convince me, just not my cup of tea.
BTW taking into consideration the price tag, T+A DAC 8 is very competitive DAC.
 
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Sablon Audio

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I doubt bill would have said it outperformed. I am sure the T+A performed well. Either way, I heard what I heard, and I was impressed neither with the dac nor the server then. Surely the server has gone through many iterations since. Also, irrespective off the two, Marc never really did any compares, he left in three mins of the T+a starting. He talked non stop
You know Kedar, it’s almost 3 years since that session and I don’t have a dog in the race, selling neither Lampi nor TA, however that is precisely what Bill told me. The TA was stock at that stage as well. That said, the TA needs a really strong server to outperform and many will prefer the GG.

Since its launch, the SGM has only seen 1 new iteration with the Evo model last year. As I understand things, Emile has kept its spec constant until that time, though the software (Roon and HQ Player) evolve into new releases quite frequently.
 

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That's quite something, not impressed w the SGM. Good for you Ked, you won't have to take it to demos like you do yr GG.
I will try the Innous, no idea how it sounds, or the Aurender n10 or LDMS. Sometime I will compare them. I don't know which among them is the best having never compared the other two but I have compared Aurender to Auralic a few times, and compared the Lampi server to Auralic, and Bill's SGM to Auralic. i always preferred the Aurender. So LDMS might be better or Innuos if natural unlike Auralic would be a better value proposition.
 

Alrainbow

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The LDMS is not like what you guys have heard for many reasons. Reg native I'm of the same thought in leaving it alone.
I have done this many many times both on the fly and off line
You pick out ones that sound better but it's just one offs. They all when Compared to native have attributes I dislike.
They shout , have odd effects on vocals and horns
Some love this or knowing there music is going through a process.
I'll bet the SGM is very good at native too but needs a good dac that does not need such manipulations to sound good.
One answer I can give is on LDMS servers one can upsample to the moon of one wants too.
Now regarding what features come as price goes up this we need the dr to answer.
I use a three some of his works in my room and would welcome any server and or dac combo at my place.
At present I use j river this after Roon to hq on two machines.
In any LDMS server there is custom parts and sound from his software , OS setup.
 

bonzo75

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I have heard the LDMS with my GG and the combo sounded great just that I have not compared it to Aurender and have never heard nor compared the innuos
 

Alrainbow

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I trust your judgement we cannot always like the same but we can and Should agree on what we here in describing it
 
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Alrainbow

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Yes better yet him on here to say him self in better terms
 

Alrainbow

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Hahaha I know it's really does need to be heard but he website needs to made much better.
I know him a few years now. Many late nights Sharing what we hear.
He has a very good horn setup and set amp
Me I'm all America muscle car watts. But in having both. We can split up various system sounds
One thing I have learned over the years is this.
Most all me included don't have our systems set up perfect. So we tweak in cables , tubes , amps and so on. So when we do get our setup close that it sounds great on more then our hand full of reference tracks. The last thing we need is a new source touted as the next coming of Christ to ruin it.
In making many servers and using various OS
each has its own sound. Some fast or slower some thin some Heavy. Aside from the realistic sound his servers show its very needed to tailor some parts to keep or even help fix each setup.
No server I know does this and it's not the dreaded dsp either.
It's his own software being used in the OS to compete the sound scape I know I sound as being extravagant but it's true.
My room is 55 feet deep
20 feet wide
9 foot ceilings
About 1500 pounds of speakers
About 800 pounds of amps
To watch 4 8 foot towers melt away into a musical stage is what his severs do. To close ones eyes and see in my mind LOUIS Armstrong singing and blowing a trumpet in my place some 4 feet in front of my speakers and his band behind him is why it must be heard.
One favorite song has him peak out for my way behind the left towers then center and pop out when he sings. Holographic imaging needs a few forms of high Order Torrence to have this level of effect. A high level sever is a must to have this
As servers of lesser specifications are used we loose this bit by bit. When all is done well the room becomes the stage
 

Alrainbow

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Hahaha I know it really does need to be heard but his website needs to made much better.
I know him a few years now. Many late nights Sharing what we hear.
He has a very good horn setup and set amp
Me I'm all America muscle car watts. But in having both. We can split up various system sounds
One thing I have learned over the years is this.
Most all me included don't have our systems set up perfect. So we tweak in cables , tubes , amps and so on. So when we do get our setup close that it sounds great on more then our hand full of reference tracks. The last thing we need is a new source touted as the next coming of Christ to ruin it.
In making many servers and using various OS
each has its own sound. Some fast or slower some thin some Heavy. Aside from the realistic sound his servers show its very needed to tailor some parts to keep or even help fix each setup.
No server I know does this and it's not the dreaded dsp either.
It's his own software being used in the OS to compete the sound scape I know I sound as being extravagant but it's true.
My room is 55 feet deep
20 feet wide
9 foot ceilings
About 1500 pounds of speakers
About 800 pounds of amps
To watch 4 8 foot towers melt away into a musical stage is what his severs do. To close ones eyes and see in my mind LOUIS Armstrong singing and blowing a trumpet in my place some 4 feet in front of my speakers and his band behind him is why it must be heard.
One favorite song has him peak out for my way behind the left towers then center and pop
 

heihei

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So Lucas fans, can anyone summarise differences btwn €4k, €5.5k and €10k: Nano, Mini and Full Size specs?

For me, I'd need to know how LDMS Nano w LPS at €5k compares to Innuos Zenith at £3k to consider paying the excess. Zenith is also like LDMS centred on attention to noise supression etc.
The differences largely boil down to the processor specs, with the larger cases being required for heat dissipation etc. They also allow for on-board memory storage and the reclocker, which the smaller-form cases can't.
If you're not bothered by upsampling to DSD, then the cheaper levels will likely be just as good sonically, and the storage / reclocker can be external to the case.
 

marslo

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Where can we can get details and technical information concerning the LDMS server? All I could get from the site is that " it really has to be heard to be believed. "!!!
As you are probably aware , I am not responsable for Lucas website;)
You should ask this kind of question directly to him.
 

CKKeung

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Hello LDMS owners,
May you share some photos of it with us.
Any photos of its back or interior?

Many thanks!
 

Golum

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Hello LDMS owners,
May you share some photos of it with us.
Any photos of its back or interior?

Many thanks!
Front of the LDMS you have on the pictures I've posted...interior personally I don't have - back I can take a picture in the evening...

Cheers
 
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Alrainbow

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Hello LDMS owners,
May you share some photos of it with us.
Any photos of its back or interior?

Many thanks!
Personally exterior views coming soon
Interior views that can be shared also coming soon. The use of Propriety devices and methods will prevent internal views to be completely shown.

The devices are hand made and at each level uses deployment methods for needed requested features.
Anyone in the nyc area is welcome to make an appointment to Visit me to hear the near top tier implementation sound.
 
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wil

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Can someone explain the difference between the mini and nano?

I wouldn't need the storage capacity of the large server as I mostly stream. And as I don't upsample or run eq, I don't believe I would need the extra processing power either.

I'm currently using the Nucleus + > Ethernet > Lampizator Pac > Avantgarde Duo Mezzo.
 
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