I doubt bill would have said it outperformed. I am sure the T+A performed well. Either way, I heard what I heard, and I was impressed neither with the dac nor the server then. Surely the server has gone through many iterations since. Also, irrespective off the two, Marc never really did any compares, he left in three mins of the T+a starting. He talked non stop
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I doubt bill would have said it outperformed. I am sure the T+A performed well. Either way, I heard what I heard, and I was impressed neither with the dac nor the server then. Surely the server has gone through many iterations since. Also, irrespective off the two, Marc never really did any compares, he left in three mins of the T+a starting. He talked non stop
That's quite something, not impressed w the SGM. Good for you Ked, you won't have to take it to demos like you do yr GG.
Well, I was at Geoffrey’s Sound Gallery in Monaco for the presentation of SGM , first version.
He used HQPlayer to upsample Qobuz to 512fs and fed it to DAC 8.
Despite the technical excellence of the presentation I noticed that everything sounded the same.
I prefer native recordings in DSD or hires PCM without any manipulation be it transcoding or upsampling.
So I stick to W20 and buy files on regular base instead of streaming.
LDSE was very close to native files from W20 but the presentation was to short to make the final decision.
I use Aurenders already for nearly 9 years, first S10 and then W20 and for the first time after the presentation of LDSE I will consider seriously the replacement.
SGM and DAC 8 did not convince me, just not my cup of tea.
BTW taking into consideration the price tag, T+A DAC 8 is very competitive DAC.
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You know Kedar, it’s almost 3 years since that session and I don’t have a dog in the race, selling neither Lampi nor TA, however that is precisely what Bill told me. The TA was stock at that stage as well. That said, the TA needs a really strong server to outperform and many will prefer the GG.
Since its launch, the SGM has only seen 1 new iteration with the Evo model last year. As I understand things, Emile has kept its spec constant until that time, though the software (Roon and HQ Player) evolve into new releases quite frequently.
I will try the Innous, no idea how it sounds, or the Aurender n10 or LDMS. Sometime I will compare them. I don't know which among them is the best having never compared the other two but I have compared Aurender to Auralic a few times, and compared the Lampi server to Auralic, and Bill's SGM to Auralic. i always preferred the Aurender. So LDMS might be better or Innuos if natural unlike Auralic would be a better value proposition.
The LDMS is not like what you guys have heard for many reasons. Reg native I'm of the same thought in leaving it alone.
I have done this many many times both on the fly and off line
You pick out ones that sound better but it's just one offs. They all when Compared to native have attributes I dislike.
They shout , have odd effects on vocals and horns
Some love this or knowing there music is going through a process.
I'll bet the SGM is very good at native too but needs a good dac that does not need such manipulations to sound good.
One answer I can give is on LDMS servers one can upsample to the moon of one wants too.
Now regarding what features come as price goes up this we need the dr to answer.
I use a three some of his works in my room and would welcome any server and or dac combo at my place.
At present I use j river this after Roon to hq on two machines.
In any LDMS server there is custom parts and sound from his software , OS setup.
I have done this many many times both on the fly and off line
You pick out ones that sound better but it's just one offs. They all when Compared to native have attributes I dislike.
They shout , have odd effects on vocals and horns
Some love this or knowing there music is going through a process.
I'll bet the SGM is very good at native too but needs a good dac that does not need such manipulations to sound good.
One answer I can give is on LDMS servers one can upsample to the moon of one wants too.
Now regarding what features come as price goes up this we need the dr to answer.
I use a three some of his works in my room and would welcome any server and or dac combo at my place.
At present I use j river this after Roon to hq on two machines.
In any LDMS server there is custom parts and sound from his software , OS setup.
Where can we can get details and technical information concerning the LDMS server? All I could get from the site is that " it really has to be heard to be believed. "!!!
Hahaha I know it's really does need to be heard but he website needs to made much better.
I know him a few years now. Many late nights Sharing what we hear.
He has a very good horn setup and set amp
Me I'm all America muscle car watts. But in having both. We can split up various system sounds
One thing I have learned over the years is this.
Most all me included don't have our systems set up perfect. So we tweak in cables , tubes , amps and so on. So when we do get our setup close that it sounds great on more then our hand full of reference tracks. The last thing we need is a new source touted as the next coming of Christ to ruin it.
In making many servers and using various OS
each has its own sound. Some fast or slower some thin some Heavy. Aside from the realistic sound his servers show its very needed to tailor some parts to keep or even help fix each setup.
No server I know does this and it's not the dreaded dsp either.
It's his own software being used in the OS to compete the sound scape I know I sound as being extravagant but it's true.
My room is 55 feet deep
20 feet wide
9 foot ceilings
About 1500 pounds of speakers
About 800 pounds of amps
To watch 4 8 foot towers melt away into a musical stage is what his severs do. To close ones eyes and see in my mind LOUIS Armstrong singing and blowing a trumpet in my place some 4 feet in front of my speakers and his band behind him is why it must be heard.
One favorite song has him peak out for my way behind the left towers then center and pop out when he sings. Holographic imaging needs a few forms of high Order Torrence to have this level of effect. A high level sever is a must to have this
As servers of lesser specifications are used we loose this bit by bit. When all is done well the room becomes the stage
I know him a few years now. Many late nights Sharing what we hear.
He has a very good horn setup and set amp
Me I'm all America muscle car watts. But in having both. We can split up various system sounds
One thing I have learned over the years is this.
Most all me included don't have our systems set up perfect. So we tweak in cables , tubes , amps and so on. So when we do get our setup close that it sounds great on more then our hand full of reference tracks. The last thing we need is a new source touted as the next coming of Christ to ruin it.
In making many servers and using various OS
each has its own sound. Some fast or slower some thin some Heavy. Aside from the realistic sound his servers show its very needed to tailor some parts to keep or even help fix each setup.
No server I know does this and it's not the dreaded dsp either.
It's his own software being used in the OS to compete the sound scape I know I sound as being extravagant but it's true.
My room is 55 feet deep
20 feet wide
9 foot ceilings
About 1500 pounds of speakers
About 800 pounds of amps
To watch 4 8 foot towers melt away into a musical stage is what his severs do. To close ones eyes and see in my mind LOUIS Armstrong singing and blowing a trumpet in my place some 4 feet in front of my speakers and his band behind him is why it must be heard.
One favorite song has him peak out for my way behind the left towers then center and pop out when he sings. Holographic imaging needs a few forms of high Order Torrence to have this level of effect. A high level sever is a must to have this
As servers of lesser specifications are used we loose this bit by bit. When all is done well the room becomes the stage
Hahaha I know it really does need to be heard but his website needs to made much better.
I know him a few years now. Many late nights Sharing what we hear.
He has a very good horn setup and set amp
Me I'm all America muscle car watts. But in having both. We can split up various system sounds
One thing I have learned over the years is this.
Most all me included don't have our systems set up perfect. So we tweak in cables , tubes , amps and so on. So when we do get our setup close that it sounds great on more then our hand full of reference tracks. The last thing we need is a new source touted as the next coming of Christ to ruin it.
In making many servers and using various OS
each has its own sound. Some fast or slower some thin some Heavy. Aside from the realistic sound his servers show its very needed to tailor some parts to keep or even help fix each setup.
No server I know does this and it's not the dreaded dsp either.
It's his own software being used in the OS to compete the sound scape I know I sound as being extravagant but it's true.
My room is 55 feet deep
20 feet wide
9 foot ceilings
About 1500 pounds of speakers
About 800 pounds of amps
To watch 4 8 foot towers melt away into a musical stage is what his severs do. To close ones eyes and see in my mind LOUIS Armstrong singing and blowing a trumpet in my place some 4 feet in front of my speakers and his band behind him is why it must be heard.
One favorite song has him peak out for my way behind the left towers then center and pop
I know him a few years now. Many late nights Sharing what we hear.
He has a very good horn setup and set amp
Me I'm all America muscle car watts. But in having both. We can split up various system sounds
One thing I have learned over the years is this.
Most all me included don't have our systems set up perfect. So we tweak in cables , tubes , amps and so on. So when we do get our setup close that it sounds great on more then our hand full of reference tracks. The last thing we need is a new source touted as the next coming of Christ to ruin it.
In making many servers and using various OS
each has its own sound. Some fast or slower some thin some Heavy. Aside from the realistic sound his servers show its very needed to tailor some parts to keep or even help fix each setup.
No server I know does this and it's not the dreaded dsp either.
It's his own software being used in the OS to compete the sound scape I know I sound as being extravagant but it's true.
My room is 55 feet deep
20 feet wide
9 foot ceilings
About 1500 pounds of speakers
About 800 pounds of amps
To watch 4 8 foot towers melt away into a musical stage is what his severs do. To close ones eyes and see in my mind LOUIS Armstrong singing and blowing a trumpet in my place some 4 feet in front of my speakers and his band behind him is why it must be heard.
One favorite song has him peak out for my way behind the left towers then center and pop
The differences largely boil down to the processor specs, with the larger cases being required for heat dissipation etc. They also allow for on-board memory storage and the reclocker, which the smaller-form cases can't.
If you're not bothered by upsampling to DSD, then the cheaper levels will likely be just as good sonically, and the storage / reclocker can be external to the case.
As you are probably aware , I am not responsable for Lucas website
You should ask this kind of question directly to him.
Front of the LDMS you have on the pictures I've posted...interior personally I don't have - back I can take a picture in the evening...
Cheers
Personally exterior views coming soon
Interior views that can be shared also coming soon. The use of Propriety devices and methods will prevent internal views to be completely shown.
The devices are hand made and at each level uses deployment methods for needed requested features.
Anyone in the nyc area is welcome to make an appointment to Visit me to hear the near top tier implementation sound.
Can someone explain the difference between the mini and nano?
I wouldn't need the storage capacity of the large server as I mostly stream. And as I don't upsample or run eq, I don't believe I would need the extra processing power either.
I'm currently using the Nucleus + > Ethernet > Lampizator Pac > Avantgarde Duo Mezzo.
I wouldn't need the storage capacity of the large server as I mostly stream. And as I don't upsample or run eq, I don't believe I would need the extra processing power either.
I'm currently using the Nucleus + > Ethernet > Lampizator Pac > Avantgarde Duo Mezzo.
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