Mark Levinson 33H

[Alrainbow]

his email is KABERAIJAI@GMAIL HIS NAME IS ABE
email him he got me all my caps for a few amps . he can have caps made to order if needed . he can get anything . I had a run of 100 pcs special order . even the large psi caps for my 33 amps were made to order . he worked for a cap maker for many years knows all the players . he is very skilled in picking out the parts . for me only a few companies I would use . and no china stuff sorry not to insult anyone . Japan , usa , Canada and one other country .

 

[renjy651]

MARK LEVINSON 33H USED 8 POWER SUPPLY FILTER CAPS AT 60000uF 75V DIAMETER MUST BE 63MM OR 2.5 INCHES AND 5.6 INCHES HIGH. ORGINAL PART# 3186FH603U07DPA2 NOW MADE BY CORNELL DUBILIER. SINCE PHILIPS WAS PURCHASED BY CDE IN 2000, CAPS ARE MADE IN LIBERTY SC USA. ML SERVICE CENTER DONT HAVE CAPS FOR 33H.

YOU ALSO NEED 4 CORNELL 1900uF 250V REGULATOR CAPS. ALSO CORNELL ULTRA LOW ESR HIGH RIPPLE 301R SERIES 330uF 100V (301R331U100JE2) WORLDS MOST EXPENSVIE RADIAL CAPS. FOR POWER SUPPLY. YOU NEED 24 CAPS. THERE IS ANOTHER UPDATE ON THE THE 33H WITH MANY SMALL CAPS,
THERE IS ALSO CORNELL FLAGSHIP DCMC LINE DCMC603U075CF2D CAPS (60000uF 75V) I ORDERED 32 OF THEM MY CUSTOMER HAVE A EXTRA SET FOR 33H.
THANKS

ABE

 

[Alrainbow]

According to the Dutch importer the 33H power caps are no longer available to them. This means they have to use third party components if they fail. I do not know if this a real problem...?!? Apart from this, they see no problem in maintaining service for years ahead.

Not true I love it when a person does not want to perform tge task or rather just sell new. I know audio is a business. Buys to misinform is just not cool.

 

[nirodha]

Not true I love it when a person does not want to perform tge task or rather just sell new. I know audio is a business. Buys to misinform is just not cool.

I do not understand. I appreciate the honesty. What is not true?

 

[Alrainbow]

I do not understand. I appreciate the honesty. What is not true?

I’m not trying to be rude , it’s that in doing RE hab work on many audio devices it just gets me when posts get done in an absolute manner . caps are available the poster above is truly the best source I ever found on caps of any kind . legacy audio devices need to be re habbed if not more unfair claims get posted. how many times I read posts on old audio devices and it then gets compared to new products . also Who made the product , an example at one ML preamps and some amps were designed by John curl were they good lol. After he left ML a few more devices were made for mark levinson while he was still there the ml 33 and 33h were made. Also the no 26 preamp . the preamp is still highly RegardEd . After the no 26 mark L left , the product line changed .
very few bother to do the work on old legacy audio as I do. Why I do it as I can well afford new ? I guess it’s the same reason some drive older high end auto .
even krell changed after Dan left but many still love the old ones and new ones. I’m doing a 700 CX now , burning in new replacement caps as I post . this amp has an amazing amount of speed its lighting on my speakers . It’s been a while since I had my ML33 in place as I renovated my place . A shoot out is coming , even the krell ktc is a very good preamp . A bit dark less then neutral but it also has all old caps. The order for them is coming soon. amps and speakers is a very complex combo so much so I feel way too many devices get paired with little understanding of if they can work as a couple . so far the krell is a very good amp indeed worthy of reviews . but get one left on for years I’ll bet it is not capable of producing what amazing sound it can produce

 

[nirodha]

I’m not trying to be rude , it’s that in doing RE hab work on many audio devices it just gets me when posts get done in an absolute manner . caps are available the poster above is truly the best source I ever found on caps of any kind . legacy audio devices need to be re habbed if not more unfair claims get posted. how many times I read posts on old audio devices and it then gets compared to new products . also Who made the product , an example at one ML preamps and some amps were designed by John curl were they good lol. After he left ML a few more devices were made for mark levinson while he was still there the ml 33 and 33h were made. Also the no 26 preamp . the preamp is still highly RegardEd . After the no 26 mark L left , the product line changed .
very few bother to do the work on old legacy audio as I do. Why I do it as I can well afford new ? I guess it’s the same reason some drive older high end auto .
even krell changed after Dan left but many still love the old ones and new ones. I’m doing a 700 CX now , burning in new replacement caps as I post . this amp has an amazing amount of speed its lighting on my speakers . It’s been a while since I had my ML33 in place as I renovated my place . A shoot out is coming , even the krell ktc is a very good preamp . A bit dark less then neutral but it also has all old caps. The order for them is coming soon. amps and speakers is a very complex combo so much so I feel way too many devices get paired with little understanding of if they can work as a couple . so far the krell is a very good amp indeed worthy of reviews . but get one left on for years I’ll bet it is not capable of producing what amazing sound it can produce

While I see the point of not making promises they cannot always keep, I now also get your point Alrainbow. Maybe the only thing to consider now is if the 33H would outperform a Classic Amp

 

[idrex]

Question
Does anyone know anyone who can recap levinson 33h and does a real good job with it in the philadelphia area

 

[idrex]

his email is KABERAIJAI@GMAIL HIS NAME IS ABE
email him he got me all my caps for a few amps . he can have caps made to order if needed . he can get anything . I had a run of 100 pcs special order . even the large psi caps for my 33 amps were made to order . he worked for a cap maker for many years knows all the players . he is very skilled in picking out the parts . for me only a few companies I would use . and no china stuff sorry not to insult anyone . Japan , usa , Canada and one other country .are

 

[idrex]

his email is KABERAIJAI@GMAIL HIS NAME IS ABE
email him he got me all my caps for a few amps . he can have caps made to order if needed . he can get anything . I had a run of 100 pcs special order . even the large psi caps for my 33 amps were made to order . he worked for a cap maker for many years knows all the players . he is very skilled in picking out the parts . for me only a few companies I would use . and no china stuff sorry not to insult anyone . Japan , usa , Canada and one other country .

Hi I was trying to send an email to this address and I get a replay email not found is that the email ?

 

[andromedaaudio]

I’m not trying to be rude , it’s that in doing RE hab work on many audio devices it just gets me when posts get done in an absolute manner . caps are available the poster above is truly the best source I ever found on caps of any kind . legacy audio devices need to be re habbed if not more unfair claims get posted. how many times I read posts on old audio devices and it then gets compared to new products . also Who made the product , an example at one ML preamps and some amps were designed by John curl were they good lol. After he left ML a few more devices were made for mark levinson while he was still there the ml 33 and 33h were made. Also the no 26 preamp . the preamp is still highly RegardEd . After the no 26 mark L left , the product line changed .
very few bother to do the work on old legacy audio as I do. Why I do it as I can well afford new ? I guess it’s the same reason some drive older high end auto .
even krell changed after Dan left but many still love the old ones and new ones. I’m doing a 700 CX now , burning in new replacement caps as I post . this amp has an amazing amount of speed its lighting on my speakers . It’s been a while since I had my ML33 in place as I renovated my place . A shoot out is coming , even the krell ktc is a very good preamp . A bit dark less then neutral but it also has all old caps. The order for them is coming soon. amps and speakers is a very complex combo so much so I feel way too many devices get paired with little understanding of if they can work as a couple . so far the krell is a very good amp indeed worthy of reviews . but get one left on for years I’ll bet it is not capable of producing what amazing sound it can produce

Hi , im curious who designed the ML 32 and 360S for example back in the day?
I own a 360S dac now since a year and i m thinking of buying a 32 pre amp also .
The old DAC outperforms my relatively new Meitner MA 2 by a large margin , better musical rhythm. better tonality and much more detail flowing through .
When would be normally the time for changing the caps 15-20 years ?
Regarding the power amps i thiink in this days and age they re just a bit to slow .

Regarding the dutch importer : may be he has just asked ML directly for the exact same spec caps and ML said no .
He is as nice as they come regarding service ; i dealt with him couple of times

I think if Mark levinson these days took the old DAC designs and the ML 32 design /circuit and put them in a new jacket and tweak the parts a bit they would sell very well

 

[tsaett]

Hi , im curious who designed the ML 32 and 360S for example back in the day?

While I do not know the exact answer, I suggest to inquire at Aevee labs. The company consists of ex Madrigal engineers and they do contract work for e.g. Bricasti nowadays. If you are lucky, the designer(s) of the above components works there now.

 

[andromedaaudio]

While I do not know the exact answer, I suggest to inquire at Aevee labs. The company consists of ex Madrigal engineers and they do contract work for e.g. Bricasti nowadays. If you are lucky, the designer(s) of the above components works there now.

Thanks

 

[idrex]

While I see the point of not making promises they cannot always keep, I now also get your point Alrainbow. Maybe the only thing to consider now is if the 33H would outperform a Classic Amp

its not a valid email I get a message that this email does not exist

 

[renjy651]

HI,

THIIS IS ABE
Alrainbow said:
his email is KABERAIJAI@GMAIL HIS NAME IS ABE
HE TYPED IN WRONG.
I HAVE A SET FOR ML-33H WITH MY CUSTOMER 8 CAPS DCMC603U075CF2D 4 CORNELL 1900uF 250V FOR REGULATOR ALSO NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE 330uF 100V ULTRA LOW ESR HIGH RIPPLE (24 CAPS NEEDED FOR 33H THIESE 36 CAPS ARE YOUR POWER SUPPLY FOR 33H.
ALSO I HAVE THE 33H SERVICE MANUAL . THE CAPS ARE IN A CUSTOM BOX.
CONTACT ME IF YOU NEED THE CAPS FOR 33H.

THANKS

 

[VQ1310]

Hello, just jumping in. I own a pair of 33H's that were just completely overhauled and have them paired with first generation JM Lab Grande Utopia's, 32 preamp, 39S CD player, 25S phono, and a Brinkmann TT. Compared to the refreshed 333.5 I was using before, the 33H's have a much more natural and smooth presentation across the sonic spectrum and much greater authority and control of the lower frequencies without the lower mid bass accentuation I noticed in the 333.5. In the past I owned a pair of 33's, but I never had the dedicated power that they required to sound like they should and all my other equipment was different at the time, so I cannot give a valid comparison. I have been told by a few service specialists that Madrigal learned some lessons in designing the 33's that they incorporated into the 33H making for a "better" sound. I find many of the more modern high end solid state designs too analytical for my taste, and that would include the 536's and the 53's. However, that is my taste and I do not have the vast experience of having heard many of the competing high end alternatives to these amps either past or present, compared to many of the members of this forum. Both the 33's and 33H's are old and very complicated, and like Alrainbow stated, likely will need significant work to sound their best. I also am the customer that renjy651 mentioned who has the caps in his post. For nirodha and idrex, it may be easier to discuss what I did to have my 33H's refurbished over the phone. You can contact me at iosaf1310@gmail.com directly to arrange a conversation if you like.

 

[idrex]

HI,

THIIS IS ABE
Alrainbow said:
his email is KABERAIJAI@GMAIL HIS NAME IS ABE
HE TYPED IN WRONG.
I HAVE A SET FOR ML-33H WITH MY CUSTOMER 8 CAPS DCMC603U075CF2D 4 CORNELL 1900uF 250V FOR REGULATOR ALSO NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE 330uF 100V ULTRA LOW ESR HIGH RIPPLE (24 CAPS NEEDED FOR 33H THIESE 36 CAPS ARE YOUR POWER SUPPLY FOR 33H.
ALSO I HAVE THE 33H SERVICE MANUAL . THE CAPS ARE IN A CUSTOM BOX.
CONTACT ME IF YOU NEED THE CAPS FOR 33H.

THANKS

how to contact you unclear

 

[renjy651]

idrex​

MY EMAIL kaberajai@gmail.com

Also

VQ1310 send his email he has the cap set. He is located close to Phili.​

Thanks

 

[idrex]

Hello, just jumping in. I own a pair of 33H's that were just completely overhauled and have them paired with first generation JM Lab Grande Utopia's, 32 preamp, 39S CD player, 25S phono, and a Brinkmann TT. Compared to the refreshed 333.5 I was using before, the 33H's have a much more natural and smooth presentation across the sonic spectrum and much greater authority and control of the lower frequencies without the lower mid bass accentuation I noticed in the 333.5. In the past I owned a pair of 33's, but I never had the dedicated power that they required to sound like they should and all my other equipment was different at the time, so I cannot give a valid comparison. I have been told by a few service specialists that Madrigal learned some lessons in designing the 33's that they incorporated into the 33H making for a "better" sound. I find many of the more modern high end solid state designs too analytical for my taste, and that would include the 536's and the 53's. However, that is my taste and I do not have the vast experience of having heard many of the competing high end alternatives to these amps either past or present, compared to many of the members of this forum. Both the 33's and 33H's are old and very complicated, and like Alrainbow stated, likely will need significant work to sound their best. I also am the customer that renjy651 mentioned who has the caps in his post. For nirodha and idrex, it may be easier to discuss what I did to have my 33H's refurbished over the phone. You can contact me at iosaf1310@gmail.com directly to arrange a conversation if you like.

i ll be glad to have a conversation with you how shall i call you ?

 

[retired farmer]

Hi I was trying to send an email to this address and I get a replay email not found is that the email ?

You can email Chris Johnson at parts connection. They did a great job on my pair of 33h amps

 

[Alrainbow]

It’s a been while since I posted about a compare of the Krell 700cx and the now completely done no 33.
the ML no 26 is a fine preamp but was a bad choice on the 700cx combo I don’t know why but clearly is. the Ktc takes a bit to understand. it maybe first perceived as darker. it takes me some time to adjust to new surroundings.
the KTC is completely re habbed many caps and some very difficulties in doing so.
it is a little brighter but to me a lower perceived noise floor.
the attack with KTC both no 33 and the 700cx is much more powerful yet stays musical. some like smooth I like music and music is not always smooth. it’s not rough but to me needs micro dynamics that smooth glosses over.
the no 33 out class the 700cx in that the krell has an attack but the no 33 seemed
To have no ceiling on an attack yet control
The attack better. I was warned my thoughts f the 700cx as better in simple
Terms was wrong. Yes I liked it better but once was competed the no 33 it’s obvious.
now my IRS V are massive and the 700cx made them have a more powerful sound.
but the no 33 / KTC is heaven.
it’s a lot of work to make new old large audio products. and I have no desire for new even if I’m sure some are better.
but what do have is legacy made audio designed and made at the then place panicle of audio.