The Grid Protector, the EMI Protector and The Allocator By Schnerzinger-In My System and I’m Blown Away

[Zeotrope]

No capacitor, no battery inside. It’s not „charged“ once a year it’s „cleaned“ or kind of „reset“. The way it works without a battery is proprietary Schnerzinger knowledge. All this as far as I know.

Ok so then if you power it all the time using Power 1 or 2, it is “cleaned” all the time?

 

[Jazzjunkie]

yes

 

[aangen]

I thought I read in the manual that one should NOT consider replacing the wall wart with any other supply. I am not at all interested in doing so. Unless you know and understand with absolute certainty what is going on inside the GP, you are taking chances and guessing on what effect your "improvements" may accomplish. I think it is foolish for an end user to second guess the work the project engineer has done. I never enjoy reading posts from armchair electrical engineers who believe they have something to offer.

 

[Steve williams]

I thought I read in the manual that one should NOT consider replacing the wall wart with any other supply. I am not at all interested in doing so. Unless you know and understand with absolute certainty what is going on inside the GP, you are taking chances and guessing on what effect your "improvements" may accomplish. I think it is foolish for an end user to second guess the work the project engineer has done. I never enjoy reading posts from armchair electrical engineers who believe they have something to offer.

wise words....you make a lot of sense

 

[Zeotrope]

I thought I read in the manual that one should NOT consider replacing the wall wart with any other supply. I am not at all interested in doing so. Unless you know and understand with absolute certainty what is going on inside the GP, you are taking chances and guessing on what effect your "improvements" may accomplish. I think it is foolish for an end user to second guess the work the project engineer has done. I never enjoy reading posts from armchair electrical engineers who believe they have something to offer.

Incredibly bizarre post. First, there is no such line in the manual.
Second, if you don’t understand the fundamentals of electricity, but want to learn, just ask.
Third, if you want to continue using a sh~tty, dirty, power source instead of a battery that costs next to nothing - that’s your call.
[+1 to ignore list - don’t have time for ignorance and valueless comments!]

 

[Zeotrope]

wise words....you make a lot of sense

It does not make any sense, Steve
You can try for yourself and hear the difference.
There’s always Audio Science Review for those who think power supplies do not make a difference.

 

[aangen]

It does not make any sense, Steve
You can try for yourself and hear the difference.
There’s always Audio Science Review for those who think power supplies do not make a difference.

There it is, an ASR follower. Into the kook bin you go.

 

[Steve williams]

It does not make any sense, Steve
You can try for yourself and hear the difference.
There’s always Audio Science Review for those who think power supplies do not make a difference.

it does make sense what he said ...I also respect your findings. I will take the road in between and have Gideon reach out to Schnerzinger to get a yes or no. I have plenty of time to try them as I still have no music as my loaner set of Plural Evos are due to arrive in 2 weeks. I also agree with anger about ASR . I will never set foot in that cess pool. Once I hear from Gideon I will post what he says

 

[Zeotrope]

I have already heard from another distributor who said that Schnerziner is considering shipping these with batteries.

In the high-end area we play in, wall warts are never a good thing.

 

[Steve williams]

I have already heard from another distributor who said that Schnerziner is considering shipping these with batteries.

In the high-end area we play in, wall warts are never a good thing.

thanks for the update. I'll verify with Gideon . I truly respect both replies. I agree about wall warts and dont want to go to the added expense of adding several LPS which might also be verboten ....I'll confirm with Gideon and let everyone here know

 

[Steve williams]

as the saying goes....."it's better to be safe than sorry"

My battery packs arrived yesterday and I am still waiting for the delivery of my loaner Zellaton Plural Evo speakers arrive as I continue to wait for my Zellaton Reference Ultra speakers ship at the end of June. I did read what aangen posted that Schnerzinger recommended to use only the 12 v wall wart provided by them but I also value the opinion of Zeotrope who said there was a big uptick sonically with these inexpensive battery packs over the wall wart. Im not in any hurry as I have no speakers and almost certainly there might need to be a reset of where my power switches are now on my Schnerzinger boxes (all are at power level ll) with different speakers and quite possibly yet another reset when my Reference Ultra speakers arrive.

Gideon was very helpful and stated the has used these amazing boxes for 14 years without any downside. He alsomis aware of what Schnerzinger has said wrt the supplied 12v wall wart. Bottom line is Schnerzinger is open to using whatever provides the best sound. Zeotrope had been using a LPS without adverse sequelae so why not a DC battery pack. In fact Gideon pointed out to me that the Schnerzinger Piccolo comes supplied with a DC battery pack

So bottom line is it is indeed fine to use the Grid, EMI and Multiguard Master boxes with the DC battery pack without concerns for any adverse or deleterious effects. It never hurts to be cautious and I want to thank both Zeotrope and aangen for making me think this through and get the OK from Gideon to use these very inexpensive battery packs rather than the supplied 12v wall wart. I suppose the irony to the whole thing my be that when we reset the power switch with the Plural Evos and then the Reference Ultra we might find that power setting "0" is the best for my system ....so stay tuned