MIT Oracle V1.3 HR speaker cable

[mep]

I know I'm not in the same league as you guys with regards to MIT speaker cables. I have the lowly S3 shotgun bi-wire cables. I place the boxes on a piece of 3/4" plywood behind my speakers to keep them off the carpet and the cables are now run on elevators that I talked about in another thread.

 

[Frank750]

Are you goiing to use small podiums or the like to elevate and isolate the boxes from the ground ? I would imagine on the IC side, it my take some creativity to place the boxes behind th component rack or have a dedicated shelf in the rack for the boxes. Thanks for chiming in on this thread Frank.

Not sure what I'm going to do with the ICs. I'll decide when I get them and see how they work with my rack.
The speaker cable boxes are currently just sitting on the carpet. I may try some Still Points for isolation at some point. My speaker terminals don't pose any height problem with the network boxes sitting on the floor.

 

[rockitman]

I know I'm not in the same league as you guys with regards to MIT speaker cables.

I'm not in that league yet, but my courage and fortitude is building to try out the speaker cables. Even at $18K, that is insanely expensive to me. On the other side of the coin, there are other manuafactures offering only a straight piece of wire for that and more in some cases. To me it's just another wire of a particular material, guage, winding and dielectric. Seems like there is obviously alot more thought and engineering going into these network box cables. Better sound and value ?

 

[mep]

I'm not in that league yet, but my courage and fortitude is building to try out the speaker cables. Even at $18K, that is insanely expensive to me. On the other side of the coin, there are other manuafactures offering only a straight piece of wire for that and more in some cases. To me it's just another wire of a particular material, guage, winding and dielectric. Seems like there is obviously alot more thought and engineering going into these network box cables. Better sound and value ?

Christian-If you get a free trial period with the speaker cables and can return them at basically no cost if you don't like them, you can't really lose.

 

[Frank750]

I know I'm not in the same league as you guys with regards to MIT speaker cables.

Believe me, I had very good cables, the last thing I wanted to do is spend this kind of money on new ones. Unfortunately, I was left with no choice after listening to the MITS. I'm weak.

 

[mep]

Trust me, I'm not saying I wouldn't do the same thing if I heard them and could afford them, I just don't have the correct length pockets to make it happen.

 

[Frank750]

I used lat 2 year MIT Oracle MA-X2 HD speaker cable and now i use MA-X SHD. It is great cable, the best speaker cable i ever heard but prices are....!!

Sly, could you please compare the MA-X2 HD with the MA-X SHD?

 

[sly30]

both are great but SHD has more details but still in warm, soft and saturate signature and create more surround sound, wider soundstage.

 

[LL21]

Sorry gents, I know this is an MIT thread, but since Transparent Audio is also network box technology...and I believe even shared common roots at one point...can anyone provide some insight as to how they compare? I know TA very well having owned TA cables for 10 yrs and auditioned nearly the whole range up to Opus MM2.

 

[rockitman]

Sorry gents, I know this is an MIT thread, but since Transparent Audio is also network box technology...and I believe even shared common roots at one point...can anyone provide some insight as to how they compare? I know TA very well having owned TA cables for 10 yrs and auditioned nearly the whole range up to Opus MM2.

I think Frank tried Opus a year ago and sent them back. I'll let him chime in....

 

[Frank750]

I think Frank tried Opus a year ago and sent them back. I'll let him chime in....

I only tried a run of IC from pre to amps. Didn't do much for me compared to my KS Elation. But then it wasn't impedance matched to my equipment either. I spoke with Transparent and didn't find them all that cooperative for a company selling $36,000 speaker cables. The dealer wasn't moving off full retail either.
Not my best experience.

 

[mep]

Sorry gents, I know this is an MIT thread, but since Transparent Audio is also network box technology...and I believe even shared common roots at one point...can anyone provide some insight as to how they compare? I know TA very well having owned TA cables for 10 yrs and auditioned nearly the whole range up to Opus MM2.

The common roots they shared at one point was that Transparent Audio started off in life as a distributor for Bruce Brisson's MIT cables.

 

[Elberoth]

AFAIK they manufactured at one point some of the MIT cables, but then decided to launch their own line of cables, under the Transporent Audio name. Not surprisingly, TA cables were similar in concept (networks) to MIT cables ...

 

[sly30]

I tested set of second model of Transparent. It was Reference MM(MM2). Higher is only Opus MM2.
I can say IC was nothing special, not enough transparent, poor resolution to slow, looses details, sounds dark but like cheap cable 200-500$.
Shunyata Python Z-Tron XLR sounds 2x better and is 8x cheaper.
Speaker cable was better, i can say good, a little similar to new Shunyata Anacodna Z-Tron Speaker but Transparent is 3x more expensive.
MIT SHD is 2 class better than Transparent, no comparism, different range.

 

[mep]

AFAIK they manufactured at one point some of the MIT cables, but then decided to launch their own line of cables, under the Transporent Audio name. Not surprisingly, TA cables were similar in concept (networks) to MIT cables ...

They never "manufactured" MIT cables. They bought the raw cable in bulk from MIT and terminated them (both speaker cables and ICs) and sold them. I know, I used to live in Maine and spent time in Karen's house where the MIT cables were terminated.

 

[nirodha]

That is who I will work with should I decide to take the plunge....

Having ordered from Joe a few times I also have to say: he is an excellent seller and a man of his word!
Wim

 

[ack]

Having ordered from Joe a few times I also have to say: he is an excellent seller and a man of his word!
Wim

And he's also a very astute businessman - he even dug me out on LinkedIn! And he's apparently selling the cables at street-price levels, basically 50% off retail.

 

[LL21]

I tested set of second model of Transparent. It was Reference MM(MM2). Higher is only Opus MM2.
I can say IC was nothing special, not enough transparent, poor resolution to slow, looses details, sounds dark but like cheap cable 200-500$.
Shunyata Python Z-Tron XLR sounds 2x better and is 8x cheaper.
Speaker cable was better, i can say good, a little similar to new Shunyata Anacodna Z-Tron Speaker but Transparent is 3x more expensive.
MIT SHD is 2 class better than Transparent, no comparism, different range.

Thanks. I will try to listen to them the next chance I get. Sounds interesting.

 

[PeterA]

I know someone who is using them and couldn't wait to dump Kubala from his system. I am starting to get intrigued by these network box wires. I really thought I had put cables to bed after full Valhalla upgrade. I am starting to rethink Valhalla for my speakers and considering this model from MIT. Looks like I can get a demo too. Who else has experience with this cable ? TIA

Rockitman, I think you own large Wilsons. Don't they use Transparent cables inside the cabinets? I would think that Transparent would also be worth an audition, just for this reason. One of the interesting differences I see between Transparent and MIT is that the network box on TA cables needs to be custom configured by the factory for the user's specific components while the MIT box is user adjustable and not component specific. Also, the TA cable is discontinuous with devices permanently inserted in the signal path while the MIT cable is discontinuous with a break and switching device adding more connections to the signal path.

The other observation I would make is that MIT is often paired with Magico while Transparent is often paired with Wilson, for whatever that is worth.

 

[LL21]

I know someone who is using them and couldn't wait to dump Kubala from his system. I am starting to get intrigued by these network box wires. I really thought I had put cables to bed after full Valhalla upgrade. I am starting to rethink Valhalla for my speakers and considering this model from MIT. Looks like I can get a demo too. Who else has experience with this cable ? TIA

Rockitman, I think you own large Wilsons. Don't they use Transparent cables inside the cabinets? I would think that Transparent would also be worth an audition, just for this reason. One of the interesting differences I see between Transparent and MIT is that the network box on TA cables needs to be custom configured by the factory for the user's specific components while the MIT box is user adjustable and not component specific. Also, the TA cable is discontinuous with devices permanently inserted in the signal path while the MIT cable is discontinuous with a break and switching device adding more connections to the signal path.

The other observation I would make is that MIT is often paired with Magico while Transparent is often paired with Wilson, for whatever that is worth.

I see Wilson, Rockport and Transparent shown together a lot as well...both speaker designers use TA cable inside. I also am surprised to read about how strongly Spectral owners are encouraged to use MIT...