More than 15,000 scientists from 184 countries issue 'warning to humanity'

[djsina2]

People that call children They disagree with "mentally retarded" are scumbags.

It has nothing to do with agreeing with or not.

 

[jeff1225]

It has nothing to do with agreeing with or not.

You even made heartless Joe P cry.

 

[Hi-FiGuy]

40 US Specialist Fire Experts have joined Aussie firefighters over here as a thank you for our firefighters helping with the Californian fires the past summer. Great mateship.

That is awesome and what humans do more often than not.

 

[PeterA]

And be a good patriotic citizen of a democracy. That means keeping up to date on the real news, understanding the government and understanding the importance of a free civil society and the value of science. It means voting after intelligent evaluation. It means respecting the rule of law.

I completely agree with all of that and I do my best to live up to that standard. However, it also means being tolerant of, and listening to, other points of view.

 

[Hi-FiGuy]

People that call children They disagree with "mentally retarded" are scumbags.

And what do you call people that use children to push an agenda/narrative?

 

[jeff1225]

And what do you call people that use children to push an agenda/narrative?

Children change the world:

• Malala Yousafzai
• Sylvia Mendez
• Malala Yousafzai
• Clara Lemlich
• Ruby Bridges
• Joseph Agricol Viala

Should the youth not be heard or called "mentally retarded" when they speak up?

 

[Hi-FiGuy]

Children change the world:

• Malala Yousafzai
• Sylvia Mendez
• Malala Yousafzai
• Clara Lemlich
• Ruby Bridges
• Joseph Agricol Viala

Should the youth not be heard or called "mentally retarded" when they speak up?

Absolutely they should but Gretta is none of those, she is being used by retarded adults.

 

[djsina2]

Children change the world:

• Malala Yousafzai
• Sylvia Mendez
• Malala Yousafzai
• Clara Lemlich
• Ruby Bridges
• Joseph Agricol Viala

Should the youth not be heard or called "mentally retarded" when they speak up?

She was called mentally retarded because of her medical condition, not for what she said.

You listed Malala twice, padding the numbers like a true Democrat.

 

[Joe P]

I just got called heartless.

I've driven less than 3K miles YTD, and I'm sorry my 2013 Prius has only been averaging 45 MPG.

I have three children and four grandchildren and I hope like me, they continue to conserve energy and recycle to reduce their carbon footprints.

I'm disappointed that the people that make the loudest noise about reducing our carbon footprints, continue to fly around the world in their private jets.

I think this week will reveal corruption and treason.

Ron and Steve, please feel free to delete my posts in this thread.

 

[the sound of Tao]

40 US Specialist Fire Experts have joined Aussie firefighters over here as a thank you for our firefighters helping with the Californian fires the past summer. Great mateship.

It always seems that there is a shared heroic and generous spirit with firies across the world. I’ve always figured emergency services are often quite the greatest example of what is really good about humanity.

 

[the sound of Tao]

Here in New South Wales there are currently over a million hectares of land on fire and it’s not even the worst of the current weather conditions yet. We have had months again way beyond seasonal levels of bush fire and the ocean and the beach yesterday were just full of black ash after the biggest continuous bushfire that I’ve seen in my life. The skies are at times quite yellow, the sun has often been a dark pink at the close of the day, a few days lately it’s been quite dark even in the mid afternoon just because of the smoke and ash.

The United Nations IPCC projections on impacts at various increased global temperatures identified even back a decade ago that even with just less than a degree C rise in global mean sea and surface temperature that increased extreme fire risk was projected. For years we have discussed the implications that changing climate could have in my work as part of landscape design training but when you start living it it’s much more immediate and profound. They stop just being ideas and words and come to life and start being experiences and reality and the level of impact to life in this new phase of the world and what it might actually be like brings reality to focus. All the implications start to surface. Poor land management and now increased bushfires have huge environmental impacts creating a bio feedback issue by then releasing sudden massive amounts of additional CO2.

With wildfires becoming more common even in Northern Europe even planned reforestation strategies as a way of now sequesting carbon like the massive reforestation of Siberia may not even be a good strategy until we can get the climate back into a safer less forest fire prone model from its current state of human modified behaviour and back down to within the normal parameters of peak atmospheric CO2 concentrations being (while naturally variable) always somewhere less than the 300ppm peaks that it has had over the last few hundred thousand years.

We are currently well over a third higher CO2 in the atmosphere than any measure in over 800,000 years and unfortunately on track to overshoot this and force greenhouse concentrations and heat impacts some ways further.

The recent discovery of increasing oxygen depletion and potential dead zones in great parts of the worlds oceans (due to sea temperature rise) is a whole new impact that has come to surface lately in scientific data and ocean oxygen depletion especially endangers the larger fish species (sharks, tuna etc) and is a separate additional threat to the threats of pollution and ocean acidification that already project increased potential for widespread species loss in the marine life throughout our oceans.

It’s estimated that as many as a third of the population of Koalas in certain areas of NSW (several thousand) died burnt alive in the recent bushfires here. Our beautiful Koala bears are now listed as a vulnerable species and recent estimates are that they might even be extinct In the wild by as early as 2050.

This one is like so many Koalas being treated for burns from the bush fires here. Traumatic images of these most fabulous and iconic of Australian species being burnt while caught trapped in the recent fires was on the news again here tonight. There are no words. Just completely heartbreaking.

 

[Al M.]

I just got called heartless.

I've driven less than 3K miles YTD, and I'm sorry my 2013 Prius has only been averaging 45 MPG.

I have three children and four grandchildren and I hope like me, they continue to conserve energy and recycle to reduce their carbon footprints.

That's great!

 

[Bodhi]

That is awesome and what humans do more often than not.

We're in this together, and I don't know of any greater friendship than between the United States and Australia. We stand by each other in good times and bad.

 

[Empirical Audio]

AG Bill Barr on Friday indicted eight individuals for illegally funneling foreign money to Adam Schiff, Hillary Clinton and several Democratic senators.

Indicted is not convicted...

 

[Empirical Audio]

That is a pretty broad stroke there Steve, most if not all "right wingers" I associate with care immensely about the environment.

Sorry, I should have used the word "most". I live amongst many wealthy conservatives. None of them care about the planet. They all have grandchildren too.

 

[Empirical Audio]

I am not right wing in the least. I’m 100% anti religion for starters and I’ve never voted once in my life.

I'm 100% for god, but man's religion is completely broken.

Voting should be mandatory. Understanding the government should be mandatory. This is the only way to conserve democracy. Too many democracies have fallen to dictators, usually during hard times.

 

[Empirical Audio]

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It’s estimated that as many as a third of the population of Koalas in certain areas of NSW (several thousand) died burnt alive in the recent bushfires here. Our beautiful Koala bears are now listed as a vulnerable species and recent estimates are that they might even be extinct In the wild by as early as 2050.

This one is like so many Koalas being treated for burns from the bush fires here. Traumatic images of these most fabulous and iconic of Australian species being burnt while caught trapped in the recent fires was on the news again here tonight. There are no words. Just completely heartbreaking.

My wife and I watched the koalas walking through the burning forest getting burned feet. It was heartbreaking to watch. This is what humans are doing to helpless animals.

 

[gilles13]

https://academic.oup.com/bioscience/advance-article/doi/10.1093/biosci/biz088/5610806
In 2019 nearly 4000 scientists disapered.

 

[NorthStar]

I too have watched the little Koalas desperation. The videos I didn't post because it breaks the heart of any normal human being. I've also read on what those fires do to the entire ecology system and wildlife. It's terrible. Also on humans...their lungs...respiratory systems.

Yes the USA, Canada (and I'm sure other countries) have sent firefighter's crews to help our Australian brothers and sisters. Many will spend the Christmas holidays in Australia fighting the many many fires. The temperatures in some areas (heat waves) this week...mid 40° Celsius!

This year alone is unprecedented (Google it).
In New Zealand yesterday a volcano island erupted. Tourists were trapped and this is still in development but dozens are feared dead.

Us we are not scientists and are not leaders, we are just audiophiles with modest jobs.
There's a balance between natural disasters and man-made help.
It's up to the best scientists of our planet to educate us on the right directions for our survival.

This world I don't think it's going to end up under a toxic cloud. Before it happens someone would take control of the world communication system...that'll be the day.
Humans are simply too intelligent to let us sink down the kitchen sink.

We need more audiophiles who stay homes, who drive less (do their grocery shopping online and delivered by electric car drivers), switching to solar and wind and wave energies, recycling salted ocean waters for drinking and irrigation, engineers with brains (Elon Musk) who work for the planet's survival of the next hundred years @ the service of a healthy humanity.

I think we can also invent clouds of rain to extinguish uncontrollable fires, clouds of cold snow to cool off the hottest and driest regions, and start the transportation of icebergs instead of the transportation of drugs.

We need the very best engineers to protect us of destroying ourselves. ...An army of them, working in tandem with the best and smartest global climate scientists.
It's a full time job for these people, good paying jobs, most important jobs, and that includes forest's management, reforestation, infrastructures, planification, administrators and architects working in teams, people who can do the job.

Health is the most important commodity because without it how can you make people working for a better world? If people die younger, if they eat junk food, if they die of cancer and air and water contamination, if they get obese of not moving, of just sitting watching TV, playing games, chatting online, flying on big planes, sailing on big cruise ships, ...all this is not cooling off things much around.

Planet's management is number one goal after jobs (strong economy)...jobs that provide families with clean air water and food, that pays those bills; autonomized electric transportation, climatized and sanitized air and privatised communication.

We just need to get serious about it.

 

[jeff1225]

Sorry, I should have used the word "most". I live amongst many wealthy conservatives. None of them care about the planet. They all have grandchildren too.

It's the people with grandchildren that are the most focused on not leaving a healthy planet for them.

Anyone who is an ardent Trump supporter, an "always Trumper," supports the defunding of the EPA and deleting all of the climate change info from government servers.

Owning a Prius isn't enough.