More than 15,000 scientists from 184 countries issue 'warning to humanity'

Bodhi

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spiritofmusic

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With Brexit, we're about to practice ecomomic Hari Kiri that will make a nice practice run for the true end of civilisation.

I always think rehearsing things makes good sense.
 

Bodhi

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With Brexit, we're about to practice ecomomic Hari Kiri that will make a nice practice run for the true end of civilisation.

I always think rehearsing things makes good sense.
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spiritofmusic

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It's feeling real LOL.
 

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I don't know if I'm convinced on all of these subjects in the way presented. But what I'd like to see is vast improvements in non-toxic enforcements. I'm worried about the stuff getting into me. And I want to see outlawing of disposable items of certain types. IMO we need to grind landfill's to a near hault, and mostly have them for retro goods. Clean water, clear dirt, clean air. I'm not really opposed to gas/diesel cars. I'm opposed to feed lots, garbage construction, non-natural carpet, dryer sheets, endless VOCs, piss poor construction design (even with good materials), packaging, and so forth. Work on consumables and manufacturing (they're one in the same, in large part). Then we'll be getting somewhere. The solutions this people have are often polarizing notions trying to be passed by jerks so it goes to standstill. Start with smaller battles and education. Here's one for you, carpet is so toxic today that warehouses for it don't have to set mice/rat traps anymore.
 

bazelio

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Yeah, Mother Earth will be fine. But we really ought to do something about actual pollution, instead of being so fixated on harmless CO2. For example, it's saddening to see islands of plastic trash in the middle of the ocean and other actual, tractable problems being comparatively ignored.
 
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I've only posted that short video that I've found accidentally because I've worked in the forest industry for a considerable fraction of my lifetime. That's all.

"The Sound of Brexit" lol I like it. :D

Seriously though, we need to better care of each other and of our garden.
Our brains are melting @ an alarming rate.
 
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Yeah, Mother Earth will be fine. But we really ought to do something about actual pollution, instead of being so fixated on harmless CO2. For example, it's saddening to see islands of plastic trash in the middle of the ocean and other actual, tractable problems being comparatively ignored.
Well no, and well yes, and errr no and uhhhm yes...
Mother Earth is almost certainly very not likely to be at all fine for a very, very long time... and yes we need to deal with pollution absolutely, and even more absolutely and unequivocally no, CO2 is certainly not in the least bit harmless when in the kinds of concentrations it currently is and could almost certainly be a planet killer if we don’t deal with it as a matter of priority.

There is already extraordinary collateral damage and loss of life and species due to even just the current green house gas levels and we haven’t even peaked yet! Yes, a sea of plastic is saddening but it would be good if just sad was the only effect... it chokes our oceans and creates great harm and dealing with plastics is a toxic pollution issue that we are going to struggle with but that ‘harmless’ CO2 is almost certainly going to continue to kill off the reefs, destroy fish stocks and significantly changing sea levels and the way the oceans work and creating massive loss in both sea life and human and animal loss and likely ecological failure across the planet.

The initial video was ok but hardly delivered anything that increased our understanding other than being a bit alarmist (alarm should ofcourse be our current go to status) it really didn’t tell us anything much we haven’t understood for some time. There is much much more going on in the approach to find ways to sequest carbon rather than just planting trees.

There is fascinating research going on in research into sequesting carbon into soil with mycorrhizal fungi biomass that could then also add fertility to the soil for farming.

Water and carbon are two of the greatest planetary challenges we have, not enough or too much of the former or as we are discovering now just too much of the latter are both clearly potential planet-wide life killers. While we will not be the first species to go but we may not be the last species to go either. That mycorrizhal fungi may just go ahead and outlive us all.
 
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