Preferences may vary and I'm aware of the acoustic benefits (wrt IMD, room modes etc.), but I've yet to hear a direct radiating system with separate subs that I really like. Even when low passed <60 Hz.
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Please read my comment again, I did not say $200k is not expensive.I am sorry, a $200K speaker is expensive ! You dealers are just hilarious !
I agree $200k is expensive.
Drivers of the cheaper models look much the same as the Revelators in the SS catalog.
I did not say $200k is not expensive .I am sorry, a $200K speaker is expensive ! You dealers are just hilarious !
I agree $200k is expensive.
I did not read the price tag in pervious post so I shared my guess about the price , these speakers looks around $30k when you look at them in room.
Sorry Amir this isn’t true. They look very expensive from the wood work alone. If you know something about drivers then you know also those used aren’t cheap.
I did not say $200k is not expensive .I am sorry, a $200K speaker is expensive ! You dealers are just hilarious !
I agree $200k is expensive.
I did not read the price tag in pervious post so I shared my guess about the price , these speakers looks around $30k when you look at them in room.
I guess many people overdo subs. With "full-range" speakers (there is almost no such thing) they should be used as a subtle enhancement, not as something that draws attention to itself.
Having said that, for two-way monitors subwoofers are mandatory. There they are foundational, not just a subtle enhancement.
A problem is also that many subwoofers are insufficiently adjustable. My JL Audio subs fortunately are well adjustable. They have e.l.f., extreme low frequency, attenuation, something absolutely essential in my medium sized room to avoid low frequency overload. They also have phase adjustment on a continuous scale, which can take care of unwanted cancellations. In addition, you can choose roll-off slopes.
Little Cessaros are poor, that said smaller room makes no sense. Most of these small efficient speakers from Cessaro or AG and likes are capable of pressurising rooms easily, they just have a lot of compromises leading to poor bass and midranges that are independent of room size
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Have you actually owned , or used any models of either Pilium, or Soulution for a long periods in your own system to come to such "definitive" conclusions about these brands?! I m not a fanboy of the either brand's amplifiers, but whatever resultant sound I ve heard, especially with the Pilium was rather lush, grounded, tonally rich, and to my ears very far removed from anything that would have sounded sharp and hard. And that was in the systems using the Magico speakers, which nobody would describe as wooly sounding. And my hearing is intact, as I have it regularly tested with the audiologist, and can hear up to around 16-17 Khz. Also, in my opinion Pilium and Soulution have rather different sound signatures.
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I gave up on solid state in 2014 , the last one i owned was a Boulder 1060 .
I can make any statement i want , that why i go to dealers and Shows to make up my mind .
Its simply my preference , there are obviously lots of people who dont agree with me .
Pilium and Soulution seem to to do very well , good for them they obviously make lots of people happy
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`You are definitely free to make -up any statements you d like, no arguments there from me.....
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Lol , you certainly have as you are the " long term home environment owner champion "
Next stop…SETs!
I definitely have to hear a good Lamm LL1.1 ML2/ ML3 set up once in my life, i agree.
I have heard the opus 1 with those Alieno electronics in a private set up. Maybe by Munich show standards it sounds good
Show them to me ...
Don t come up with Alieno , NAF , Air tight , AN UK , KONDO etc etc .....
I want some drive in the music
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