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Err ,
Not really , if you were involved back then Digital actually saved the music business it was a must happen when it did , there was no way the industry was going to sustain itself with the continuation of vinyl pressing only, the transition had to be abrupt to get everyone on board the initial costs to convert were enormous..
This is correct. I just confirmed with my father that this is an accurate characterization. (He worked in various business affairs positions at Columbia Records, and then at Arista, and then at Atlantic (where he introduced me to Craig Kallman!) and WEA Music Group from the early 1960s to 1997.)
Elliot G.
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It certainly created a whole lot of interest and it came from places that were not the traditional areas. I worked at Lyric when the CD player was introduced and we were overwhelmed with calls and people wanting to see it and buy it . They wanted it without ever hearing it or knowing whether there would be loads of discs avaialable. In the beginning there were only a few titles available and back then we sold that too.
There were articles and stories in all the major outlets from TV to the NY Times and WSJ. We saw many non traditional audio consumers and it certainly was good for business.
Digital and CD impetus was all about money. How to lower music production costs, media unit production costs, and be able to recycle the music rights to the catalogues. Sony and Philips found the holy grail Red Book cash cow. all good. $$$$. Then when they realized that end users could easily copy a CD they created SACD trying to put that genie back in the bottle. it did not work out that way.
then along came Apple and the i-pod and files and then it all came apart. all those royalties per unit gone.....poof. artists were left out to dry and turned mostly to performance for incomes. media incomes lowered considerably. brain power found new places to get rich......not music.
and then peripherally analog came back. but big hole in popular music quality. but access to music is much easier/cheaper. so trade offs.
then along came Apple and the i-pod and files and then it all came apart. all those royalties per unit gone.....poof. artists were left out to dry and turned mostly to performance for incomes. media incomes lowered considerably. brain power found new places to get rich......not music.
and then peripherally analog came back. but big hole in popular music quality. but access to music is much easier/cheaper. so trade offs.
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Correct; my father said that Napster was the beginning of the end of the revival of the record business.
But streaming made free music obsolete. A better product came a long, even over free, and people pay for it happily now. (I know there are lots of free accounts but a LOT of people pay for streaming to their phones for everyday music)
And here I thought it was about Akio Morita being able to listen to Beethoven's 9th uninterrupted.
Its pretty obvious you are addressing something I didn't. What I said was correct and what you said is correct too. Different topics.
No, this is simply an image taken between the turntable and the motor housing. I recently moved the turntable further away from the speaker and put the motor unit on the right side of the turntable. A very long and loose thread is connecting the two.
In my belt experiments with my old Micro Seiki, I did compare rubber belts, dental floss, and various types of thread. Dental floss was pretty good and better than the belt which was already non-stretch, but the right thread is even better.
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Thanks.
Since joining this forum I have gone back and read your original sublime sound thread and all 293 pages of this thread. Your journey has been one of my favorite learning/reading experiences in home audio for quite a while.
Thank you very much, Joel. I appreciate that and am glad that you enjoyed reading my two system threads. All the better if you actually learn something.
I have enjoyed trying to put my thoughts to words and sharing them here. I have learned much from the process. Reflecting on it all now, I have no regrets. The learning continues, and the result for me is greater enjoyment from this wonderful hobby.
I certainly have learned a lot, and am going to start going to more live jazz venues to get a better basis for my system reference. I'm looking forward to continued growth of knowledge and enjoyment about this great hobby.
Live music is the solid base on which a system reference is built.
Agreed, but my live reference for music typically is rock concerts which I have found do not have a true sense of imaging, just a wall of sound regardless of venue. Although my tube amps and horns reproduce that wall of sound extremely accurately to my experiences; I feel I need to get some more non amplified references for better acoustic understanding.
Live music and recorded music are completely different experiences when it comes to imaging (and pretty much everything else). You are not going to learn anything by going to some random jazz concerts, aside for the fact that your system is never going to be able to recreate the live experience...
If you want a reference for your system, you can simply use some tracks where you know how they were recorded. There are even test tracks for this.
That being said, listening to live music is obviously rewarding.
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