Network Acoustics Muon Pro Review

[luca.pelliccioli]

I made some comments about Roger Waters who by general consent is a racist fascist f*** and I fell out with Elk, so I told him to cancel me from the PS Audio forum

Sad to hear that from you, a few members asked about you noticing the absence, but I’m glad you are well! Wow, didn’t know about that dark side of Roger Waters, listening to music in English for a non English guy like me often makes difficult getting the right meaning of lyrics!

Let us know your thoughts about the Muon. I’m confident you’ll like it. Needless to suggest you about Ethernet cables to use, I perfectly remember your position on this argument! Let me just say, try the Muon in different configurations (downstream upstream in one and other direction) and let it 2 weeks before any critical listening.

As for Puritan I totally agree with you, I bought a second unit to feed amplification on the front wall and a second GM City. The second PSM 156 has just arrived, need more time before judging. To be honest the first City made a very subtle difference in my system. The second one is still on the way. Time will tell.

Enjoy your trip to Japan (I always had Luxman in my wishlist, maybe one day…)

 

[ssfas]

Roger Waters has been at it for years. He had a big fight with Thom Yorke of Radiohead about them playing in Tel Aviv. Thankfully they did the gig. My wife and elder son went over for it and my wife, who didn't know any Radiohead music, said it was absolutely amazing.

Thom Yorke hits out at Roger Waters and others calling for Radiohead to cancel Israel gig

Radiohead frontman Thom Yorke responds to calls from Roger Waters and more to boycott Israel ahead of band's Tel Aviv gig on July 19

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Roger Waters Criticizes 'Whining' Thom Yorke Over Radiohead's Israel Gig

Days before Radiohead perform their much-discussed Tel Aviv concert, Roger Waters once again criticized the band for not adhering to the BDS Movement.

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I will be getting a few more Puritan grounding parts when I can think about it.

The wife has organised the Japan trip, I'm going along for the ride, maybe I should just try and sneak in a little vinyl shopping.

 

[Sunra]

Steven, wishing you well, as I too enjoy my Luxman 509X. Just added Wilson AudioSabrinaX to my analog system, driven by cj premier 11a.

 

[jasond]

A very good review has just been published here: https://www.hifi-advice.com/blog/re...views-digital-cable/network-acoustics-tempus/

I absolutely agree to the findings and comparisons described there.

 

[Republicoftexas69]

I made some comments about Roger Waters who by general consent is a racist fascist f*** and I fell out with Elk, so I told him to cancel me from the PS Audio forum. A week or two later his label BMG got fed up with it all and dropped him. It must have been serious internally to drop Roger Waters. The head of licensing at BMG is a golfing pal and when I next see him (Saturday most likely) I shall thank him.

I will try the Muon. Richard has a loan unit. For personal reasons I cannot do it now.

Personally, I think the Puritan is a game-changing disruptive brand, because it just works really well and is done on a minimum cost base that makes lots of other smaller companies like Shunyata look a bit stupid.

There are some very high value brands mostly because of their production scale and lower costs. I bought the Luxman L-509X that compares favourably with products from the likes of Gryphon and Soulution that cost 2 or 3 times as much. I paid £7k for a new unit, reduced from £9k, whilst the Gryphon 120 is £15k once the phono module is added. The new L-509Z is £11k. It's a lot cheaper in Japan.

I'm off to Japan on holiday in May, I don't think the wife will appreciate me putting a new Luxman in the hand luggage (especially as we are coming back via Shanghai). Maybe I can squeeze in a new cartridge. I joined this forum as I have a Garrard build in the works and there is a relevant thread. I should have the parts soon (there are 6 different suppliers involved) and get it together in a month or so.

I completely agree with your feeling about Waters being a Racist, Fascist Puck!
No back to our regular programing.

 

[treitz3]

Let's please keep the thread topic on course and not sway into thoughts on a particular musician's beliefs. It has not one thing to do with the Muon Pro at all.

Thanks, gentlemen.

Tom

 

[MacF]

Interested in hearing from someone who is running both fiber & Muon Pro in same system?

 

[treitz3]

@MacF, I would love to offer you my insights but optical is not my thing. The Muon Pro does work (similarly...in other words, it does the same thing) the same way and offers the same observations on a friend of mine's system who runs with a pair of Focal Utopia's/Mark Levinson type gear. FWIW.

In other words. the results of what this Muon does is repeatable. Unless you have a remarkable front end? It will make a huge difference in the presentation and cleanliness in what you hear. Please note....I did not find it "listenable" for the first week IME. Evaluate after break in. Then decide. They do come with a 30 day return policy, so that is plenty of time to decide.

Tom

 

[PYP]

@MacF, I would love to offer you my insights but optical is not my thing. The Muon Pro does work (similarly...in other words, it does the same thing) the same way and offers the same observations on a friend of mine's system who runs with a pair of Focal Utopia's/Mark Levinson type gear. FWIW.

In other words. the results of what this Muon does is repeatable. Unless you have a remarkable front end? It will make a huge difference in the presentation and cleanliness in what you hear. Please note....I did not find it "listenable" for the first week IME. Evaluate after break in. Then decide. They do come with a 30 day return policy, so that is plenty of time to decide.

Tom

In my setup, 200 hours were needed to settle in fully. YMMV. Very easy to install (passive device without need for power).

Previously, I had a copper ethernet > fiber > copper ethernet combo which had more of an impact on the listener's perspective (moving closer to the stage). One advantage of the Muon Pro is that it doesn't do that. All active ethernet cleaners I tried had more of a "voice" than the passive MP. I prefer not to voice my setup with such devices.

 

[TRHH]

Based on a very interesting post:

"The choke cable – minimizing common mode interference over the last meter"

I have bullied this setup:




The setup is based on the same principles as Muon.

I can highly recommend such a setup on "The Last Mile"

Torben

 

[Network Acoustics]

Based on a very interesting post:

"The choke cable – minimizing common mode interference over the last meter"

I have bullied this setup:

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The setup is based on the same principles as Muon.

I can highly recommend such a setup on "The Last Mile"

Torben

Hi Torben, thank for your post but just to clarify there are no chokes or transformers used in the design for the MUON Pro Ethernet Filter. NA

 

[TRHH]

Hi Torben, thank for your post but just to clarify there are no chokes or transformers used in the design for the MUON Pro Ethernet Filter. NA

Your is based on ferrite toroid - so it is the same as above.

There is also no transformers in the above solution.

Torben

 

[Network Acoustics]

Your is based on ferrite toroid - so it is the same as above.

There is also no transformers in the above solution.

Torben

Hi Torben, we do use precision hand wound chokes in original ENO Filter, but there are no chokes/ Ferrite toroids used in MUON Pro which uses completely different technology NA

 

[TRHH]

Hi Torben, we do use precision hand wound chokes in original ENO Filter, but there are no chokes/ Ferrite toroids used in MUON Pro which uses completely different technology NA

Just fine with me.

I know from measurement and test from users that the above solution deliver SQ improvement for 50-70 EURO.

Torben

 

[jasond]

@TRHH Have you every used a Muon Pro streaming system at all?

 

[TRHH]

@TRHH Have you every used a Muon Pro streaming system at all?

Yes - I have compared the above solution with Network Acoustics eno. The eno did not add any additional benefit compared to above.

Torben

 

[jasond]

Well you should try a more recent generation. The ENO was the very first approach, in the meantime there is ENO2 which is much advanced or at a different level the Muon Pro.
Maybe one or your friends can share one of those for testing.

 

[TRHH]

Well you should try a more recent generation. The ENO was the very first approach, in the meantime there is ENO2 which is much advanced or at a different level the Muon Pro.
Maybe one or your friends can share one of those for testing.

If you ship one to Hamburg (Germany) I will gladly test it. In the mean time we will improve the setup with Nanocrystal core material



Torben

 

[PYP]

If you ship one to Hamburg (Germany) I will gladly test it. In the mean time we will improve the setup with Nanocrystal core material

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Torben

interesting. Is this something you are developing for yourself and sharing with others who prefer DIY? Or will you manufacture and market a product?

 

[TRHH]

interesting. Is this something you are developing for yourself and sharing with others who prefer DIY? Or will you manufacture and market a product?

We are a small group of people how use it - maybe more and more, we don't know - and are working on improving it. No we will not manufacture it - it is open source

Torben