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The Lakers have a tradition to 'excite' the league with monster acquisitions like Wilt, Kareem and Shaq. It will not surprise me if they move to get a young Dwight. But adding Chris Paul too? Wow!



Chris Paul and Dwight Howard? Bringing that dream to life a challenge for Lakers


Pau Gasol (from left), Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom would be the likely trade chips if the Lakers pursue deals for Chris Paul and/or Dwight Howard. (Reuters)

Mark Heisler of Sheridan Hoops raised the possibility last week, and ESPN.com’s Chris Broussard reported it Monday night: The Lakers don’t want just Chris Paul or Dwight Howard; they want both.

And wouldn’t that be the ultimate test of talent versus chemistry and internal development: The Lakers, in blockbuster trades, potentially would unload their entire front line, the engine behind two consecutive titles, just as they enter a compressed season with a new coach running a new system on both ends of the floor.

But New Orleans’ Paul and Orlando’s Howard represent the kind of talent for whom you take such a risk. Of course the league’s glamour team wants the best point guard and the best center in the game. Who wouldn’t? The only question is whether it has the assets to obtain the two potential 2012 free agents. As Brian Kamenetzky argues at ESPN Los Angeles, this is where the dream dies without some help from a third team (a potential league-wide pariah) or ultimatums from Paul and Howard so strong that their current teams would have little choice but to trade them to Los Angeles.

And remember: The Lakers, unlike the Knicks, will not even have token salary-cap space next summer if they stand pat between now and then, robbing Paul and Howard of some leverage. Los Angeles could work extend-and-trade deals, but that route now comes with a financial hit that the stars may not be willing to take. The Lakers also lack any appealing first-round picks to offer.

So what do they have?

• Andrew Bynum, Lamar Odom and Pau Gasol, three players who make a lot of money (still important for any big trade, even with the new collective bargaining agreement’s more liberal salary-matching rules) and are neither young unknowns nor old. Bynum is easily the most appealing option for a rebuilding team, despite having played 54 or fewer games in four of his six seasons. He just turned 24, and he has the potential to be a 20-and-10 center who can protect the rim at an elite level. He has not shown the defensive mobility or cleverness of Tyson Chandler, Andrew Bogut or Howard, but he is still a very valuable commodity to a team building from the bottom up.

• The financial strength to take on unsavory contracts — especially those linked to Hornets center Emeka Okafor and Magic forward Hedo Turkoglu, both of which extend into 2013-14, when the new luxury-tax rates kick in. If the Lakers manage to acquire Paul and Howard, and take on Okafor and Turkoglu as penalties, they will have about $89 million committed to five players in 2013-14, when Kobe Bryant will make a preposterous $30.4 million. If the tax line jumps to $75 million by then, that $89 million alone would carry a tax bill of $26 million or so under the new rates — and we haven’t even filled half a roster, or counted $11.7 million guaranteed to amnesty candidates Ron Artest and Steve Blake in that season. The Lakers are flush with a local TV deal that will pay them up to $200 million per year, but are they really this flush, given the new tax and (undisclosed, of course) revenue-sharing system that the NBA will use?

Let’s pretend they are, and that a package centered on Bynum and Odom is enough to acquire one of the stars and a high-priced teammate — someone the Lakers could use to fill the suddenly gaping hole at power forward that would emerge if they trade Gasol and Odom. Height still rules in the NBA, and the Hornets or Magic may well look at Bynum as the most appealing return if other potential suitors aren’t willing to surrender prime pieces — the Clippers with Eric Gordon, the Warriors with Stephen Curry, the Hawks with Al Horford — without an extension in the bag for Paul or Howard. Odom is a third banana, at best, but after this season he will have just one year left on his contract at $8.2 million, with only about $2.4 million guaranteed, according to ShamSports. He would bring cap relief or a useful salary slot to put in another trade.

But what then? You’re left with Gasol, a 31-year-old set to make $57 million over the next three seasons, including $19.3 million in 2013-14, the first year of the new tax regime. That is max money for an aging big man with a lot of NBA and international wear on his legs. Gasol looked weary at the end of last season after playing heavy minutes early as Bynum’s injury replacement at center.

Gasol is a wonderful player, a probable Hall of Famer, but he’s not much use to a rebuilding team. Sure, he might be an appealing trade target in a year or two, but you don’t deal your franchise player for an aging trade chip who might turn your 25-win team into a 30-win team in the meantime. Teams willing to gamble on Paul and Howard without an extension can beat a package of Gasol and nothing. A theoretical haul from the Rockets of Kyle Lowry, Patrick Patterson, a first-round pick and salary filler is more intriguing to a rebuilding club, even if it’s a disappointing return for a superstar. The Clippers could put together non-Gordon packages, built on DeAndre Jordan, Eric Bledsoe and Minnesota’s unprotected 2012 first-round pick, that trump Gasol and flotsam.

The Lakers are right to chase this dream, and they might be the only team that could realistically afford it. But until they find a third team or some form of leverage that doesn’t exist yet, it’s just a dream.
 
Yep -- Odom's old, Pao probably past his peak and certainly not a piece to rebuild with, and Bynum's history of injuries and perhaps desire issues, particularly w/o a strong leader like Kobe makes all of them of very suspect value to a team that inevitably will be starting over. Getting one is a reach and I think another team who needs vets but has young talent or picks might have to be involved; getting both is up there with the NY tabloids sure that CP is going to the Knicks, who have far less to trade.
 
Imo, if the Lakers can work out a deal to have this 'Big 3', and most likely they will be without Gasol, Bynum, and Fisher, I feel that have a good core to blend with than say the Big 3 of Miami last season. Howard, Kobe, and Paul theoretically all have different roles unlike Wade and James who basically fill the same hole. Spray them with good veterans and athletic newbies, and this dream Laker Big 3 will be highly competitive in the next 3 years.
 
I would feel good too if the Celtics trade Rondo for CP3. I doubt if Rondo will improve his shooting anymore. To start with, the way he shoots, the angle is crooked, and my son noticed that too. ;)
 
Rumor has it the leading candidates to acquire CP3 are the Warriorss & the Clippers.

Warriors have assets that make sense. Wonder if the Clips will let go o Gordon
 
And what a great lineup of games on opening day!

CHRISTMAS GAMES
• Celtics at Knicks, noon ET (TNT)
• Heat at Mavs, 2:30 ET (ABC)
• Bulls at Lakers, 5 ET (ABC)
• Magic at Thunder, 8 ET (ESPN)
• Clips at Warriors, 10:30 (ESPN)
 
Warriors have assets that make sense. Wonder if the Clips will let go o Gordon

Apparently CP3 told the Warriors he'd be interested if they also sign Tyson Chandler. The Warriors apparently have already expressed interest in Chandler, regardless of whether CP3 comes. And, of course, the 2 of them were teammates in New Orleans.
 
I am not a Celtics fan .. Far from it .. I do however see Rondo as a good player and at times verge on great. He can't shoot but rebounds, defends, steals and handles the ball exceedingly well. Has shown leadership, courage and understand the game at a deep intellectual level... He would be an asset for any team... If Boston and the Boston fans run him out they will bite their nails and soon .. Make sure he is not handled/traded to NY .. Babe Ruth all over again ...
I think there is good likelihood that Howard may land in LA with the Lakers and not the Clippers .. The man wants to win and Kobe is after all, Kobe, a formidable player who loves and knows how to win... Blake Griffin is great and all that, he hasn't won anything yet ... He is very good but so was Patrick Ewing who never won an NBA Championship ...
 
I don't see the Clippers landing Howard. I can't see both Griffin and Howard sharing the paint.
 
I think CP could make Vinny look like a good coach.
 
Uh-oh...Danny Ainge is about to be his trigger happy self if he does this kind of trade. Not good to let Green go at all, let alone trade Rondo, Green and 2 picks for a CP3 with knee issues.



Danny Offers Rondo, Green, & two 1st rounders for Chris Paul
Ken Berger CBS Sports

But the Celtics stepped forward with an offer that would not have to come with any commitment from Paul that he'd re-sign with Boston after the season. According to a person familiar with the discussions, the Celtics offered Rajon Rondo, two future first-round picks, and restricted free agent Jeff Green in a sign-and-trade for Paul.

The impetus behind the Celtics' potential rental offer for Paul was intriguing: Come to Boston, take a shot at winning a title with Paul Pierce, Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett while the window is still open, and then have enough room to entice Dwight Howard to come on board as an unrestricted free agent next summer. Garnett and Allen come off the books July 1, leaving the Celtics with only $30.4 million in committed salary for next season, when Howard can opt out of his contract with Orlando.

Though Paul has never expressed a desire to play in Boston, if he liked his new surroundings and the Celtics' chances of luring Howard, he would be in a championship-contending situation and could get his max deal of five years, $100 million six months after the trade.


This is worse then I thought. Not only is Ainge offering Rondo for Chris Paul, despite Rondo's better health and much smaller contract, but he's also willing to kick in Jeff Green, who he sacrificed Kendrick Perkins and last season for. But that's not all. Here's a first rounder New Orleans (probably the Clippers pick). Still not enough? Here's another 1st rounder. So if Paul leaves for New York next Summer, we have no Paul, no Rondo, no Green, and no draft picks to rebuild with. There's going All-In and then there's Crazy.

Update 10:00pm via SI.com

Sources said their offer includes point guard Rajon Rondo, a 2012 top-10 protected first-round pick from the Clippers, second-year guard Avery Bradley and rookie guard E'Twaun Moore. Another source said restricted free agent Jeff Green would likely be part of that deal as well.
 
If true, this is a far better offer than anything the lakers can muster.
 
Don't understand this from the rocket's perspective as posed
 
Lakers set to land Paul
Adrian Wojnarowski

By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports 2 hours, 12 minutes ago

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The Los Angeles Lakers have reached an agreement to acquire All-Star point guard Chris Paul in a three-team trade that will cost them Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

The Lakers are finalizing the trade with the New Orleans Hornets and Houston Rockets. Under terms of the proposed deal, the Lakers would send Gasol to the Rockets. The Hornets would receive Odom, Rockets guards Kevin Martin and Goran Dragic and forward Luis Scola, league sources said.
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“It’s not finalized, but we’re close,” one front-office official involved in the negotiations said.

The Hornets will receive a future first-round pick from the Rockets as part of the package for Paul.

Hornets general manager Dell Demps informed two of the other finalists for Paul on Thursday evening that he had a deal in place for Paul to go the Lakers, front-office sources said.

Paul had listed the Lakers as one of his preferred destinations, and it became a more clear choice for him on Thursday after the New York Knicks moved to the brink of completing a four-year, $58 million contract for free-agent center Tyson Chandler. The Knicks lost the salary-cap space they would’ve needed to sign Paul this summer, and the Lakers had been pushing hard to close a deal for Paul with Houston and New Orleans.

The Lakers could turn their attention toward using center Andrew Bynum as a trading chip to make a play for Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard.

Kobe Bryant was disappointed to see Gasol go in the deal, a source told Yahoo! Sports. He had been a great facilitator for Bryant and the Lakers out of the post, but Bryant was thrilled about the possibilities of playing with Paul. The point guard can ease a lot of Bryant’s ball-handling and play-making responsibilities, something that will benefit him at 33 years old.

The trade also frees up salary-cap room for the Rockets to pursue free-agent center Nene, league sources said. The Denver Nuggets also have made a strong bid to keep Nene.
 
That looks good for LA. And if they deal Bynum for Howard, that Super Trio is very sound.

Tyson Chandler to NYN. That's gonna be good for them too, imo. Bad news for Dallas.
 
If they get Howard, Kobe will get his sixth ring to match MJ ... He may even get a seventh before he retires ... Woah ... !!! The lakers will pull all the stops to get Howard, Bynum is good but Howard is the Superstar Center ...
 

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