New Doshi 3.0 phono pre
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The Allnic is very quiet. Don't get me wrong. Plenty quiet for any cart .25 mv and up.
Bruce-I don't want you to think for one second I'm knocking Nick's decision to use a SS front end for his tube phono stage-quite the opposite. As anyone who has met Nick knows, he is truly a "No Dogma" guy. Nick will use whatever works and sounds best in a given application and I respect him for that. I probably spent too much time sitting in the Paragon/Doshi room at RMAF 2013 listening to Nick's electronics, but I enjoyed every second which is why I kept coming back. Larry is a great guy. Nick is a great guy. Their room sounded like heaven and when you put the combo together, why would you want to leave in order to hear mainly marginal rooms?
Read my response to Bruce. I'm not knocking Nick's choice because I think it is the right choice.
another factor hardly considered is speaker sensitivity, for a given reference level with all other things being equal you'll hear more phono 'noise' if your speakers sensitivity is on the low side like me (84db). the guys with alexias at 90db can get away with a noisier phono stage.
the quietest 'stage i've ever tried, bar none, was john curl's vendetta...but its been a while.
the quietest 'stage i've ever tried, bar none, was john curl's vendetta...but its been a while.
Good point. I had not really thought about that, but it makes sense. The more gain your system needs the quieter that gain needs to be. My speakers have about 89db sensitivity according to Stereophile.
Ian I'm not necessarily referring to the noise out of the speaker eg. hiss but the noise in the music eg. transparency. It's the same feeling you get say when putting the better MIT cables in. It's something that's there that the ear can filter out but when it's gone, you all of a sudden pick up.
Sorry, I can not understand your point. The sensitivity of the speakers is the same for noise or signal, it will not affect your perception of the phono unit noise, as you will use different positions in the volume control with different speakers.
If Bruce's phono pre is 3.0 this must be 3.1?
Looks like Nick has updated the chassis again with lcd front and remote control loading.
Looks like Nick has updated the chassis again with lcd front and remote control loading.
Please contact Larry with pricing questions . Also please keep in mind that there are 2 phono stages - the one shown above which has the cosmetics / functionality to match the V3 gear. I also make a unit that has metering and the ability to use the meters in sum and difference mode to help with VTA and azimuth adjustments. I call this the studio unit and it has cosmetics targeted more towards pro use(similar to the tape stage). Those at the Paragon event may recall that we used both types of phono stages at the demo. The Studio unit was in use to demo the stereo and mono playback via the brinkmann spyder table and I demo'd the Transparent phono cable using the V3 remote controlled unit
Some users prefer the remote control features and some like to use the meters.
Studio unit shown above
Nick, Larry and I are trading emails...will call him in the next few days...I'd like to find a phono stage #1 that betters my Nagra VPS and #2 can be a great match with my Allaerts MC2 Finish (.2mv out put...32ohm internal impedance)...if I picked another cartridge it's likely be the Allaerts Formula...with even lower output...I am a transparent cable user also...Still-One mentioned a special differential cable from Transparent...
The Doshi Phono stage should have no problem with the Allaerts cartridges. One of my personal cartridges is the Benz Ebony TR and I do not have any noise issues with noise from a .05mv MC. We demonstrated a Transparent opus phono with a differential network at the Paragon event a few weeks ago. After a few years of patient persuading, Transparent produced a cable with differential network to take full advantage of the differential input in the Doshi Phono and the results were staggering. Please feel free to reach out to Larry and if there any technical specifis, i'll be happy to jump in.
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I need a second pre..perhaps this is the one I need to try. The XP25 will go the way of the XP30 towards XS pre upgrade. That is my all out assault plan.
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