New Wadax Atlantis Reference Dac

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my vinyl has leaped ahead more (in degrees) than my digital over these last years in spite of my considerable digital efforts, i have zero illusions i will ever see them as the same level (they will never be the same).

it's inevitable that there will be forward movement of digital performance up the diminishing curve. and if the Wadax is one of those steps, there will be another later.
Digital is a media with very different technical and subjective properties than vinyl. We can't compare their levels - at best we can level our preference.

Tape has not leaped ahead in the last forty years - it is limited by the electromechanical properties of the top reproducers. I can't see how vinyl is continuously jumping every six months, considering that analog LPs are sourced from tape.

My progress in this hobby is dominated by my preferences and enjoyment of the evolution of my systems. A few steps were really significant, most are just (enjoyable :oops: ) adjustments. Surely MHO, YMMV.
 
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According to my usual sources, yes, the bar has been raised. But do not expect a DAC that sounds like vinyl ... ;)
I only play digital music, but I see that vinyl improves every day at the same time, so the gap between them will always be there ...
I see them as different ways to enjoy music and that's okay, because you can focus wherever you want. You can enjoy music to a high level with both or each one separately ...
 
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Digital is a media with very different technical and subjective properties than vinyl. We can't compare their levels - at best we can level our preference.

Tape has not leaped ahead in the last forty years - it is limited by the electromechanical properties of the top reproducers. I can't see how vinyl is continuously jumping every six months, considering that analog LPs are sourced from tape.

My progress in this hobby is dominated by my preferences and enjoyment of the evolution of my systems. A few steps were really significant, most are just (enjoyable :oops: ) adjustments. Surely MHO, YMMV.

i don't want to get too far off topic here, but agree analog format potential is not really variable. but the path toward reaching it is not linear or the same for everyone. my most recent vinyl 'ahah' moment was with the LFD cables and how the tiny output from the cartridge has much more info than i had previously appreciated. but a few others likely figured that out earlier. there are lots of vinyl performance variables, how can every one be solved completely by anyone? mechanical systems get refined. and then refined some more.

the remarkable thing is how audible all these little things are with vinyl. it shows just how much information an analog recording can have. so far we have not found all of it.
 
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Digital is a media with very different technical and subjective properties than vinyl. We can't compare their levels - at best we can level our preference.

Tape has not leaped ahead in the last forty years - it is limited by the electromechanical properties of the top reproducers. I can't see how vinyl is continuously jumping every six months, considering that analog LPs are sourced from tape.

My progress in this hobby is dominated by my preferences and enjoyment of the evolution of my systems. A few steps were really significant, most are just (enjoyable :oops: ) adjustments. Surely MHO, YMMV.
Micro, as my vinyl playback has improved in the last 7 years, leaps and bounds in last 6 weeks, the closer it's approximated the best digital. And the CDP that I chose in 2013 remains the closest approximation to what analog does best.
Personally, I truly believe I've achieved the best of both worlds, CD replay that is consistently engaging and immersive like the best vinyl replay, and LP playback that sounds neutral and uncoloured (unlike so many euphonic TTs) like the best digital replay (I'm very familiar w SGM/Aqua front end).
Am I one of the few lifelong vinylphiles and initial digital-hater, that actually references my CDP sound in rating where my analog has needed to go?
 

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i don't want to get too far off topic here, but agree analog format potential is not really variable. but the path toward reaching it is not linear or the same for everyone. my most recent vinyl 'ahah' moment was with the LFD cables and how the tiny output from the cartridge has much more info than i had previously appreciated. but a few others likely figured that out earlier. there are lots of vinyl performance variables, how can every one be solved completely by anyone? mechanical systems get refined. and then refined some more.

the remarkable thing is how audible all these little things are with vinyl. it shows just how much information an analog recording can have. so far we have not found all of it.
Mike,

In what sense are you considering that the information increased? Or is it simple being better exposed?

BTW, can you imagine how the tape sound will improve if you replace the wire from the tape head to the heap preamplifier with LFD cable? ;)
 
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agree. from what i gather he has bought the dac after listening to it - is that right howie?
Ill let you know in 6 -7 weeks . I ordered the Wadax and as you know I own the CH
 

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excited for you Elliot.
I cant wait. I am very much focused on all the changes we are going to make to bring in some additional great products.
 

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I cant wait. I am very much focused on all the changes we are going to make to bring in some additional great products.
looking forward to your thoughts!:)
 

Elliot G.

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looking forward to your thoughts!:)
I will be happy to report on the products when they arrive. We have both the DAC and server coming. I am not allowed to say anymore :)
 
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Thanks Elliot....i am curious are Wadia and Wadax related ? the names sound very similar there.
 

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Thanks Elliot....i am curious are Wadia and Wadax related ? the names sound very similar there.
I dont think they are related at all. Looks like Wadia Digital was formed in 1988, bought in 2011 by Fine Sounds (owners of ARC and SF) was originally based in Saline, Michigan, US. Wadax is a Spanish company recently formed in 2006 by Javier Guadalajara in Madrid, Spain.
 
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I dont think they are related at all. Looks like Wadia Digital was formed in 1988, bought in 2011 by Fine Sounds (owners of ARC and SF) was originally based in Saline, Michigan, US. Wadax is a Spanish company recently formed in 2006 by Javier Guadalajara in Madrid, Spain.
ahhh righto thanks Lloyd:) . Looking forward to Elliott's report:)
 

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lol howie...would you believe i googled tampax? you naughty man!
 
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We are so excited to be Wadax dealers. We already have the Wadax Atlantis DAC + Power supply in our store on display and we shall have the WADAX Atlantis Reference DAC by next week also. We have on Display the CH Precision L10 Pre-Amplifiers, The M10 Mono block Amplifiers and the world renowned P1 Phono stage with X1 power supplies and a D1 SACD Transport. We also stock the CH Precision C1 DAC. We have Stenheim Reference Ultimes, 3 pair of Stenheim Alumine 5 se and standard version Alumine 5 loudspeakers and 2 pair of Alumine 3 loudspeakers in stock ready for installation.
 

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