Mike, I would ask you to continue with the original idea. It is almost impossible that what you are going to do can be repeated, it is a unique opportunity. I understand that the comment that has triggered this has been pushy and offensive (as almost always) but I would ask you to continue with your initial idea, and if possible with videos.
New Wadax Atlantis Reference Dac
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I agree! FWIW I would LOVE to see and hear about this otherworldly comparison.
That would be a real shame!
Although I am unlikely to buy either product, I would enjoy reading your thoughts on what the both do well and which one has the edge in any particular area. I would get more from your opinion than any magazine reviewer.
Hi Mike.
I second your consideration.
Too much pollution from here to keep yourself focused in so important change.
I find the comparison useless…
Wadax has opened Pandora’s box.
USB is dead and Optical is the future and Wadax has done it in a way i doubt rest of brands could reach in the next years…
USB option is only implemented to connect Server to another Dac. Not your case…
You know you have to connect them by optical and that is fine, because is the best combo available and they are designed to work this way.
You can’t do any comparison because it doesn’t exist another brand who is even near to this new technology.
I was thinking purchasing the Ref Server, it will sound better than my Atlantis for sure, but the value is in the optical output and i have Atlantis Dac
If you choose Wadax people still will think the same, because different price, level, connection, etc… Here opinions are very polarized and always will be an excuse to keep somebody thinking his server is better.
If some Taiko owner or potential buyer is interested in Wadax is so simple as request a demo to a dealer and listening it in his system. As it should be with each component.
Rest is only curiosity and unfinished fight of Egos….
Just my 2 cents…
Obviously, it's not a totally unprepped trial, Mike already so likes what he's heard from the Wadax that he's agreed the sale of his MSB. I guess there would have to be a pretty dramatic reversal of fortunes for the Wadax to fail in his room, or for the MSB to have enough attributes not matched by the Wadax for him to reverse the sale.
All the top DACs have enough differences in presentation that it's not strange to consider someone might prefer the Pacific or the totl Ares Cerat, TD-12 over the MSB etc etc etc.
But the Extreme is the one component that has ruled over all others, no other servers seemingly coming close. Even me as a dyed in the wool non streamer can vouch for it's beyond stellar capabilities after the half dozen times I've heard it.
So my interest in Mike's cosmic shootout is not simply if Wadax Ref DAC is better than the MSB, and why/how.
It's particularly whether the Ref Server comes close/matches/exceeds the Extreme via USB into his MSB, and then how much the gap is when listened via the Akasa into the Ref DAC.
And if the Ref Server comes up short thru the MSB, but absolutely comes alive via the Ref DAC, what can be concluded from this Akasa-related ultra synergy.
So MSB v Wadax Ref DAC SQ is interesting in its own way, but how Extreme v Ref Server ranking turns out, this is the result to look for.
All the top DACs have enough differences in presentation that it's not strange to consider someone might prefer the Pacific or the totl Ares Cerat, TD-12 over the MSB etc etc etc.
But the Extreme is the one component that has ruled over all others, no other servers seemingly coming close. Even me as a dyed in the wool non streamer can vouch for it's beyond stellar capabilities after the half dozen times I've heard it.
So my interest in Mike's cosmic shootout is not simply if Wadax Ref DAC is better than the MSB, and why/how.
It's particularly whether the Ref Server comes close/matches/exceeds the Extreme via USB into his MSB, and then how much the gap is when listened via the Akasa into the Ref DAC.
And if the Ref Server comes up short thru the MSB, but absolutely comes alive via the Ref DAC, what can be concluded from this Akasa-related ultra synergy.
So MSB v Wadax Ref DAC SQ is interesting in its own way, but how Extreme v Ref Server ranking turns out, this is the result to look for.
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I understand your interest...
What server do you have? What servers have you compared directly in your home?
In an attempt to change cq ‘lighten up’ the subject in this thread somewhat (might this be a joke?): before I made the decision to buy the Wadax reference dac I talked a couple of times with Javier. One of the topics we addressed is that of grounding his reference components. The reference dac employs two grounding posts while the reference server has one. Javier is familiar with the effects of Tripoint grounding: first of all he and Miguel collaborated on a few audio shows in Hong Kong. AE - Wadax’s distributor in Hong Kong - is ‘heavy into’ Tripoint grounding. Secondly, Javier experienced these effects while attending the introduction of the reference dac in Hong Kong. On my question whether in his view the reference dac and reference server would (also) benefit significantly from grounding with Tripoint Audio components his answer was very clear: a wholeheartedly yes. No surprise I presume, but imho something to take into account by all (future) owners as this is the view of a man who knows his reference ‘beasts’ inside out.
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Hi Audiocrack.
There is no doubt about what Tripoint puts on the table. Javier knows it very well, but he knows also his product has to sound amazing even in the worst conditions, because every system is different and each costumer has its preferences.
He doesn't has any Tripoint in his headquarter, no switch, basic cables.... He never recommends any brand of cables, switches, etc...
Just play and listen by yourself....
You have to reduce variables at lowest level to get original philosophy sound that Wadax makes by itself.
From this point, you can play with cables, grounding, etc... to improve the sound oriented by your taste.
Regards !!!
There is no doubt about what Tripoint puts on the table. Javier knows it very well, but he knows also his product has to sound amazing even in the worst conditions, because every system is different and each costumer has its preferences.
He doesn't has any Tripoint in his headquarter, no switch, basic cables.... He never recommends any brand of cables, switches, etc...
Just play and listen by yourself....
You have to reduce variables at lowest level to get original philosophy sound that Wadax makes by itself.
From this point, you can play with cables, grounding, etc... to improve the sound oriented by your taste.
Regards !!!
Well, once I read the Stereophonic post about the uselessness of making this comparison, I reiterate my request that it be published.
By the way, the claims about the superiority of Wadax technology over any other have reminded me of the claims in the same sense of Lukasz Ficus and that of the new DAC Horizon. Let's see how it is possible to have two DACs that are technologically far above all the others.
By the way, the claims about the superiority of Wadax technology over any other have reminded me of the claims in the same sense of Lukasz Ficus and that of the new DAC Horizon. Let's see how it is possible to have two DACs that are technologically far above all the others.
No disrespect, this ranks amongst the most pointless things ever posted on this forum.
Are you in the market searching a Top Level Dac and Server? Are you going to change yours by Mike’s opinion? I doubt it…
So, if you aren’t in that position, it is useless to you …
You already tested Wadax Arcadia and didn’t like it vs Aries Kassandra. Are you going to change your Kassandra?
Stereophonic, I drive a Kia. Mike is about to trial and compare a top Porsche and top Ferrari. I don't think anyone's interested in my Kia, or any Ford or Volkswagen I might test drive.
So according to you it is only useful to read an audio review, if you are in the process of purchasing a device? That is absurd. This is a hobby and we all like to read about dream systems that we can never have. The opportunity that Mike presents us is unique, surely there will never be another like it: a highly conditioned room, a dream system and an experienced listener, and do you want to deprive us of that?
Yes, because i like to live in the real world than in a dreamed one.
You read it, so what? Only entertainment…
Are you interested? Listen it by yourself…
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Unique? Excuse me, but there is life out there..
With all my respect…Mike is a man doesn’t a God. If he buys Wadax he won’t be the only one. There are some MSB Select users which already have done this change.
I don’t want to private anybody of anything.
Sure Mike will do a stunning report, we’ll have a fun time, but one more time. So what?
I only guess best experience possible to Mike in this test…
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