New Wadax Atlantis Reference Dac

In an attempt to change cq ‘lighten up’ the subject in this thread somewhat (might this be a joke?): before I made the decision to buy the Wadax reference dac I talked a couple of times with Javier. One of the topics we addressed is that of grounding his reference components. The reference dac employs two grounding posts while the reference server has one. Javier is familiar with the effects of Tripoint grounding: first of all he and Miguel collaborated on a few audio shows in Hong Kong. AE - Wadax’s distributor in Hong Kong - is ‘heavy into’ Tripoint grounding. Secondly, Javier experienced these effects while attending the introduction of the reference dac in Hong Kong. On my question whether in his view the reference dac and reference server would (also) benefit significantly from grounding with Tripoint Audio components his answer was very clear: a wholeheartedly yes. No surprise I presume, but imho something to take into account by all (future) owners as this is the view of a man who knows his reference ‘beasts’ inside out.
Rudolf,
I hope you've been well and congrats on the new Dac. I just spoke with Miguel and heard his thoughts. Lets talk when you receive the goods!

Happy New Year,
Dave
 
Rudolf,
I hope you've been well and congrats on the new Dac. I just spoke with Miguel and heard his thoughts. Lets talk when you receive the goods!

Happy New Year,
Dave
Hello Dave, thank you very much. I wish you and your family a happy and in particular healthy 2022. Hope Miguel had some (very) interesting insights for you regarding the performance of the Wadax reference combo and Akasa cable (he surely had for me). And indeed, let’s have contact once I have had my first listening experiences. Btw, a very famous ‘set up guy’ is going to visit me (hopefully in the second quarter of this (new) year) in order to realize a maximum musical (end)result and I am really looking forward to that visit as well.
 
In the past, I listened to both Atlantis DAC and Atlantic Reference DAC driven by the Atlantic Universal Transport many times.
I was unimpressed by the transport.
And the Wadax HK dealer said that the Reference Server was a much better source than the Atlantis Transport.

I have learned that Wadax will launch a new transport very soon.
It's called Atlantis X Transport.
Will it be as good as the Reference Server when paired with the Reference DAC?
Let's wait and see.

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Btw, a very famous ‘set up guy’ is going to visit me (hopefully in the second quarter of this (new) year) in order to realize a maximum musical (end)result and I am really looking forward to that visit as well.
Hi Audiocrack.
Is this the famous ‘set up guy’?
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You are right on that but if I understood Javier correctly they will first launch a reference PSU to be used with the reference server and their (future) reference transport. This PSU will be the first one below 200nV of RMS noise voltage from 0.01Hz to KHz, although according to Javier this is not the most sensitive / important parameter for ultimate audio playback. There may be a version for the reference dac as well but that is not certain yet.
 
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Hi Audiocrack.
Is this the famous ‘set up guy’?
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Hi Nacho, yes he is. Stirling Trayle is one of the ‘audio insiders’ I talked to - even before I was seriously contemplating the Wadax reference dac - and I inter alia asked him if in his view the reference dac is really as good as the three reviewers were claiming (it to be). Guess what he answered me ………..
 
You are right on that but if I understood Javier correctly they will first launch a reference PSU to be used with the reference server and their (future) reference transport. This PSU will be the first one below 200nV of RMS noise voltage from 0.01Hz to KHz, although according to Javier this is not the most sensitive / important parameter for ultimate audio playback. There may be a version for the reference dac as well but that is not certain yet.
Rudolph, so this Ref PSU will be an add on to the Ref Server at a later date? Just checking so Mike knows to keep some funds aside Lol.
And there will be a fully-fledged Ref Disc Transport, again with options for Ref PSUs?
Effectively this will be a near €$£500k setup if you want the Transport and Server, and maybe more than one Akansa will be required as well.
I'm genuinely impressed with Wadax setting out their stall.
 
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Rudolph, so this Ref PSU will be an add on to the Ref Server at a later date? Just checking so Mike knows to keep some funds aside Lol.
And there will be a fully-fledged Ref Disc Transport, again with options for Ref PSUs?
Effectively this will be a near €$£500k setup if you want the Transport and Server, and maybe more than one Akansa will be required as well.
I'm genuinely impressed with Wadax setting out their stall.

And you can place reference server, transport, and PSU each on Herznan or some active isolation where you can mod each with its own power supply. Now imagine if that owner also has CH in individual blocks with its power supplies
 
Rudolph, so this Ref PSU will be an add on to the Ref Server at a later date? Just checking so Mike knows to keep some funds aside Lol.
And there will be a fully-fledged Ref Disc Transport, again with options for Ref PSUs?
Effectively this will be a near €$£500k setup if you want the Transport and Server, and maybe more than one Akansa will be required as well.
I'm genuinely impressed with Wadax setting out their stall.
The answer to both your questions is yes. Javier provided me with more info about this reference PSU but because this component is not yet available - delivery will probably start sometime in April-May of this year - I will leave it at that for now.
 
Never has Mike looked at rack space so intently.
 
Rudolph, so this Ref PSU will be an add on to the Ref Server at a later date? Just checking so Mike knows to keep some funds aside Lol.
And there will be a fully-fledged Ref Disc Transport, again with options for Ref PSUs?
Effectively this will be a near €$£500k setup if you want the Transport and Server, and maybe more than one Akansa will be required as well.
I'm genuinely impressed with Wadax setting out their stall.
the owners manual of the Ref server addresses this. read about it last week. i suppose if the you choose the Ref server then you have to keep going.

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Never has Mike looked at rack space so intently.
it's all about the ratio of tt's/arms/phonos <-> digital chassis. determined by the hierarchy of listening focus. they earn their space.

space is finite. at least the RTR decks can stay on the other side of the room. so they are not at risk to losing space.
 
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Well, Javier informed me briefly about what this new reference PSU is going to bring to the table. Very interesting indeed but (even) without this PSU the reference server will - in combination with the Akasa cable - already be something very special indeed.
 
Mike, kinda like the permutations are endless, but in the end, only one Lol.
I see Wadax are recommending another Akansa cable. I understand this is a proprietary link btwn the server and dac, effectively a unique approach that supercedes USB, but why would it be needed on the connection to a PSU? I'm not getting that at all.
 
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I gave the Wadax/Gobel system a long listen at Capital Audiofest with several visits to the room. I wish I could say I loved what I heard but to be totally honest the sound left me cold. The system lacked the lifelike sonic qualities that immerse me in the music. It was lacking the magic that evoke an emotional response, no chills down the spine, no smiles or tears of joy. It just left me flat.

Contrast that with my trips to the MSB room at Axpona in successive years where I was as emotionally captivated as I have ever been by the music emanating from the Select DAC and adjoining system. I ended up spending nearly half of my time at Axpona in the MSB room savoring every minute of the music.

Ken
This thread has certainly stirred a lot of interest. I am wondering how many here have actually listened to the Wadax Reference System? I would be in interested in reading others’ opinions on its sound quality that have had the opportunity to listen to it.

Thanks,
Ken
 
Mike, kinda like the permutations are endless, but in the end, only one Lol.
I see Wadax are recommending another Akansa cable. I understand this is a propreitary link btwn the server and dac, effectively a unique approach that supercedes USB, but why would it be needed on the connection to a PSU? I'm not getting that at all.
it's just a power cable with a Neutrik SpeakON 'type' Connector on both ends. much more secure way to attach a cable than an IEC. but likely only carrying DC from the power supply. my MM7's use these type connectors for the bass module signal connection between the passive main tower and the bass tower.

"Akasa" is just their Wadax-speak for their proprietary DC and Optical connector cables.

 
So, you only need ONE super spendy Akasa OPTICAL cbl, Server to DAC? This "other" Akasa for the Server psu is more of a standard (aka more affordable) one?
 

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