I'm really happy for you, but I'm pretty angry with Alfred. I ordered and paid in October. Exactly the same arm that you now have.Thanks…..Originally talked to him about the order in late December, and paid him in early January.
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Andy
Maybe 'Adnick' has yours ????I'm really happy for you, but I'm pretty angry with Alfred. I ordered and paid in October. Exactly the same arm that you now have.
@alfredbokrand do you understand why I'm frustrated?
Well, I think Alfred just have messed things up. Lost track of orders, and that is why he gets so many complains on email that he now struggles to handle. The frustration is reaching new levels every week.Maybe 'Adnick' has yours ????
Glad to finally see your AB309, Andy.Well it was delayed a couple of days because of weather, but wow Alfred went above and beyond, he added the direct RCA interconnects!
Beautiful arm, and sounds as good or better than it looks!
Again my best to Alfred, hope he gets caught up….
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Feel for you in your frustrations and worries 'JH_No'.Well, I think Alfred just have messed things up. Lost track of orders, and that is why he gets so many complains on email that he now struggles to handle. The frustration is reaching new levels every week.
I'm really happy for Adnick, and also glad to hear that Alfred is not dead or something. That hopefully means that there is still a slightly chance that I will get a tonearm in the distant future...
This is odd to me. There is no comparison between the used arms you are considering and a Bokrand. Despite the challenges Alfred has meeting promised dates, he still delivers an amazing arm that takes less time from order to delivery than a Schroeder. If you just adjusted (or ignored) time considerations and assumed 8 months rather than 3 or 4 weeks, you’d be ecstatic with what you get.Feel for you in your frustrations and worries 'JH_No'.
I was thinking a while ago about getting a Bokrand Arm as a second arm for my Kuzma XL DC fitted with an Ortofon SPU cartridge which would be a nice complement to my Kuzma 4Point currently fitted with an MSL Eminent Ex cartridge.
However, from reading over the last few months the terrible and long waiting time experiences a lot of WBF members have had (and maybe a lot more other disappointed and frustrated people not on WBF) I think I will pass on purchasing a Bokrand arm and either get a second hand Ortofon TOTL arm or a second hand Viv Labs arm instead !
Yes, I’m not bailing out either. Just a pain in the a*# when you expected delivery i Nov/Dec….This is odd to me. There is no comparison between the used arms you are considering and a Bokrand. Despite the challenges Alfred has meeting promised dates, he still delivers an amazing arm that takes less time from order to delivery than a Schroeder. If you just adjusted (or ignored) time considerations and assumed 8 months rather than 3 or 4 weeks, you’d be ecstatic with what you get.
i wish Alfred could underpromise and overdeliver in the time realm, rather than the other way around, and i understand the frustrations, but as a very satisfied owner, the end is well-worth the wait. Bailing out because an artificial deadline was missed (even missed by a lot) only hurts the bailer.
I’m actually an early adopter, having owned a Bokrand for a couple of years, so i’m not quite as invested in the problem as many of you are. I think the frustration expressed is understandable and justified. I’m just trying to remind people that the quality and performance of the arm is worth the wait…I kind of agree, I am not bailing out, yet… (ordered in mid nov…). But it is really frustrating, and on top of that see that others getting their arms when they have ordered later than you. ( I am happy for everyone getting their new arm).
Well, now Alfred actually contacted med via email. I will report when things sort outYes, I’m not bailing out either. Just a pain in the a*# when you expected delivery i Nov/Dec….
I wasn't comparing a Bokrand arm with an Ortofon TOTL arm or a Viv Labs arm. They are currently alternatives to a Bokrand arm if I decide not to pursue purchasing a Bokrand in the not too distant future !This is odd to me. There is no comparison between the used arms you are considering and a Bokrand. Despite the challenges Alfred has meeting promised dates, he still delivers an amazing arm that takes less time from order to delivery than a Schroeder. If you just adjusted (or ignored) time considerations and assumed 8 months rather than 3 or 4 weeks, you’d be ecstatic with what you get.
i wish Alfred could underpromise and overdeliver in the time realm, rather than the other way around, and i understand the frustrations, but as a very satisfied owner, the end is well-worth the wait. Bailing out because an artificial deadline was missed (even missed by a lot) only hurts the bailer.
Sorry. I assumed that a list of alternatives implied comparison.I wasn't comparing a Bokrand arm with an Ortofon TOTL arm or a Viv Labs arm. They are currently alternatives to a Bokrand arm if I decide not to pursue purchasing a Bokrand in the not too distant future !
If it’s actually in progress that’s great, you’ll enjoy that on your TD124, have a Stax UA70 on my TD124…..Going to wait until I have my hands on it before I order the Thorens TD124 arm board for it