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amadeus

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Very interesting...do you believe in the principle of having custom subs designed to go with them to make them all-out flagship speakers?

I have never heard (custom)Subs whit Lyra s so i don t know?
 

amadeus

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I have never heard (custom)Subs whit Lyra s so i don t know?
Also i must say why some will pay 190K$ for a speaker thats shy on Bass and will make research and extra cost to correct the Bass performance by custom designing Subs.....
I owned almost all Rockport Speakers in the past and i really believe Lyra is over priced.
 

LL21

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I have never heard (custom)Subs whit Lyra s so i don t know?
Also i must say why some will pay 190K$ for a speaker thats shy on Bass and will make research and extra cost to correct the Bass performance by custom designing Subs.....
I owned almost all Rockport Speakers in the past and i really believe Lyra is over priced.
Well...I think the idea is to go towards 4-tower speakers or speakers (like WAMM and XVX which have the ability but not obligation to go with matching subs) where it is clear that to deliver that level of limitless scale, dynamics and power are at another level.

For example, the REL 6 pack (6 massive subs in 2 towers of 3 each) ...is apparently transformational even to the mighty Arrakis according to Arnie who owns them...
 

musicfirst1

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I have never heard (custom)Subs whit Lyra s so i don t know?
Also i must say why some will pay 190K$ for a speaker thats shy on Bass and will make research and extra cost to correct the Bass performance by custom designing Subs.....
I owned almost all Rockport Speakers in the past and i really believe Lyra is over priced.
I think the point here is that virtually all "full range" speakers can benefit from properly designed and integrated separate subs. This is by no means a denigration of the bass capabilities of the Lyra, nor any other full range main speakers for that matter.

I had the opportunity to hear the Lyras with and without active custom subs. The subs improved the bottom octave and much more.
This is by no means a reflection on the bottom 1-2 octave performance of the Lyras, rather it is a testament to the efficacy of well thought out subwoofer design and setup, providing the room can accommodate.
 

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I think the point here is that virtually all "full range" speakers can benefit from properly designed and integrated separate subs. This is by no means a denigration of the bass capabilities of the Lyra, nor any other full range main speakers for that matter.

I had the opportunity to hear the Lyras with and without active custom subs. The subs improved the bottom octave and much more.
This is by no means a reflection on the bottom 1-2 octave performance of the Lyras, rather it is a testament to the efficacy of well thought out subwoofer design and setup, providing the room can accommodate.
WOW...you have heard the Lyras with custom subs! That is fantastic news. A few questions if I may:

1. What subs were they?
2. Can you describe the differences a bit more?
3. In the end, how much scale did the combination provide you in comparison with other major flagship speakers (big Wilsons, Focals, huge panels)...did the Lyra + Sub end up (scale wise) equalling a big set of speakers...or did you feel like it was a true "4-Tower Speaker System" in scale...so more like an XLF + Dual Thors, or Gryphon Pendragon, etc?

Thanks for any insights!!!
 

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John, congratulations on purchasing Lyra! Altair II is a great speaker but I find Rockport's unique cabinet structure used in the Lyra along with the wave guide design of the tweeter in Lyra and other models a real step up in realism and resolution from prior designs. All the best!
 

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John, congratulations on purchasing Lyra! Altair II is a great speaker but I find Rockport's unique cabinet structure used in the Lyra along with the wave guide design of the tweeter in Lyra and other models a real step up in realism and resolution from prior designs. All the best!
Ralph thanks ! Arnie and yourself are welcome to stop by anytime !
 

Harri009

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Nice John, I have seen pictures many times throughout the years of your system. Excellent. I picked up Rockport around a year ago. (Oklahoma dealer) no better music lover sound than Rockport as far as I am concerned. I think we are still a year or so from grabbing a pair of Lyra’s but are certainly on our lust list. Congrats. In the meantime have a pair of no.25’s to go with our Aviors :)
 
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amadeus

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I think the point here is that virtually all "full range" speakers can benefit from properly designed and integrated separate subs. This is by no means a denigration of the bass capabilities of the Lyra, nor any other full range main speakers for that matter.

I had the opportunity to hear the Lyras with and without active custom subs. The subs improved the bottom octave and much more.
This is by no means a reflection on the bottom 1-2 octave performance of the Lyras, rather it is a testament to the efficacy of well thought out subwoofer design and setup, providing the room can accommodate.

Its quite possible that Lyra + subs when integrated right will sound better my point is that when a speakers cost 190k$ it used to have a very good and powerful Bass already whit out adding subs.
 
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