Curious...have you heard the Trafomatic Elysium?

on Cessaro Zeta and Pnoe outside shows, also compared to Alieno on the zeta and many other amps on the pnoe.

at Munich on tune audio anima.

however these are very different horns and difficult to draw on those impressions for cones or panels. The KR VA 200 I compared with different amps on the Avalon so that is suitable for more extrapolation.
 
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Are we to take it that you have managed to source some tested type II or even better type III Ei’s Ron .
Yes, Type 2s. Why do you think Type 3s are better?
 
Ron's preferences don't really align with KR Audio amps. They are much more toward the SS end of the spectrum like his VTLs. (I actually quite like them, just not relying on a single company for tubes).
Really? He seems more Jadis than VTL these days…
 
Really? He seems more Jadis than VTL these days…
You're misinterpreting Keith's post, I think. Keith is saying that the Kronzillas are more like VTL these days.

You are correct that for the Pendragons I am more Jadis than VTL these days.
 
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You're misinterpreting Keith's post, I think. Keith is saying that the Kronzillas are more like VTL these days.

You are correct that for the Pendragons I am more Jadis than VTL these days.
Well, if that is what he means, then he is wrong. I was a KR dealer for several years and know the product very well.
 
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on Cessaro Zeta and Pnoe outside shows, also compared to Alieno on the zeta and head Baris amps on the pnoe.

at Munich on tune audio anima.

however these are very different horns and difficult to draw on those impressions for cones or panels. The KR VA 200 I compared with different amps on the Avalon so that is suitable for more extrapolation.
Thanks and fair enough.
 
(...) You are correct that for the Pendragons I am more Jadis than VTL these days.

Curious why you did not ask Luke Manley to modify your Siegfried II's to EL34 before giving up on them. Anyway, probably if I used cheap, non optimized 50 feet long ICs on my Siegfrieds I would also be wanting to part with them. But you have a point - Jadis or conrad johnson are much less demanding on cables than for example, ARC or VTL.
 
You're misinterpreting Keith's post, I think. Keith is saying that the Kronzillas are more like VTL these days.

they are not. though they don’t have a coloured midrange or any extra romance, but that way we are not classifying amps only into two camps
 
Well, if that is what he means, then he is wrong. I was a KR dealer for several years and know the product very well.
I have to say, from everything I have ever read...including from other owners/dealers is that the KR has a 'breathe of life' midrange, not voluptuous necessarily but certainly rich.
 
Could also 'lush out' the bass towers a bit with another intermediate tube buffer that has that more desirable lower midrange/upper bass response. Easy to implement to taste with different tubes and less work than changing the whole frequency range with the preamp. It wouldn't interfere with the general imaging projected from the ribbon.

Put it between the preamp outs and the bass amplifier in. It's unlikely you will get that different kind of 'character' as much by changing things around with the ribbon and its higher frequency spectrum.
 
The "weightiness" in the upper bass to lower midrange of the Jadis is the Jadis' raison d'être. I definitely do not want to give this up.

Kronzilla and the KR VA 200 and their other variants all have great weight and bass and linearity through lower midrange
 
I have to say, from everything I have ever read...including from other owners/dealers is that the KR has a 'breathe of life' midrange, not voluptuous necessarily but certainly rich.
Ron’s heard a dozen amps with me and I’ve owned Berning LTAs which sound more similar to Kronzilla as somewhat tonally rich but not warm. He’s directly compared Jadis vs Berning.
 
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Kronzilla and the KR VA 200 and their other variants all have great weight and bass and linearity through lower midrange

Let's stipulate that they have "great weight and bass and linearity through lower midrange." But that is not the question.

The question is do they have more weight and bass through lower midrange than Jadis?
 
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Perhaps this helps as a point of triangulation: I think Keith LTAs exhibit "breath of life," which is why I preferred them over literally every more expensive, and every much more expensive, challenger, other than JA30. I don't hear them as weighty or as warm as I heard the JA30.

For solid-state I preferred Gary's Westminsters over darTZeel. But JA30 was my favorite amplifier in Keith's system.
 
Let's stipulate that they have "great weight and bass and linearity through lower midrange." But that is not the question.

The question is do they have more weight and bass through lower midrange than Jadis?

better than Jadis. But for power it is the VA 200 which you are not going to find easily
 

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