RCA LSC-2562 Beethoven Emperor CSO

 
They sound pretty dynamic on my Sony headphones, Mac Mini through Yamaha Pre/Pro.
 
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Ugh. Check your audiophile card at the door…

What do you mean?

This is a wonderful piece by a fantastic composer, well played.
 
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Honestly, just for the record, I don't have Marty-style patience for the swapping of tubes back-and-forth and back-and-forth and back-and-forth and conducting meticulous and analytically rigorous A/B comparisons.
Just for the record, I don't have Marty-style patience either :rolleyes: . I experiment for the obvious purpose of trying to find the most pleasing sound, same as every tube roller. Where I may spend more time than I'd like is checking any given tube's performance in the context of what it does with other specific tubes in the chain (i.e a particular recti with a particular triode or pentode). But it's really best to leave a combo set-up in for a week before changing things, so conclusions are often prolonged because of the number of variables involved. That's when patience comes in handy. Wish I had more of it. Regarding the Horizon, my tube set has been quite stable for months...until Goran (Golum), Mark (Sablon) and David (Dminches) ruined my contentment with some recent suggestions, all simultaneously.
 
I am scheduled to receive an in-home demo of two PSI AVAAs on April 21.

I have ordered two ASC 20-TT-HH TubeTraps with a requested peak absorption at 55Hz to 60Hz.

It's time to shave down that bump!
 
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I am scheduled to receive an in-home demo of two PSI AVAAs on April 21.

I have ordered two ASC 20-TT-HH TubeTraps with a requested peak absorption at 55Hz to 60Hz.

It's time to shave down that bump!
Hi Ron,

Great decision! Now when the system has settle it self down a bit, it is a great time to start and work with the room acoustics. Small fixes here and there, and you will get the sound to where you want it to be in time;). I love tube traps because they both absorb and diffuse at the same time. Actually got five tube traps myself in my room. Two standing on each sides of the room and one laying behind the listening position along the floor/backwall corner, facing the diffusing part 45° back towards the listening position. It works very well - I tell you?:).

Hope you have as much fun in your audio room as I have in mine. Btw: your last video clip - I really liked it… loved the size of the sound… very nice indeed.

/ Jk
 
Hi Ron, both the piano videos are excellent. It is quite remarkable you are already at this point.

The emperor was dedicated not to the Emperor but to the Archeduke, who was Beethoven's favorite pupil, and the 4th concerto is also dedicated to him as is the Archeduke trio and the final piano sonata.

Love the first movement, which literally starts with a cadenza from the second note instead of waiting till the end of the movement. Can you also play some of the third movement, but capture the transition from towards the end of the second movement into the third movement? Very important for this piece.
 
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Hi Ron, both the piano videos are excellent. It is quite remarkable you are already at this point.

The emperor was dedicated not to the Emperor but to the Archeduke, who was Beethoven's favorite pupil, and the 4th concerto is also dedicated to him as is the Archeduke trio and the final piano sonata.

Can you also play some of the third movement, but capture the transition from towards the end of the second movement into the third movement? Very important for this piece.
Love this kind of info and history lessons?;)! Thank you!

/ Jk
 
Love this kind of info and history lessons?;)! Thank you!

/ Jk

once over two concerts, Andras Schiff gave very interesting trivia on each of the concertos before playing them
 
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Johan my friend … If you keep this pace up you will be in danger of wearing out your View attachment 107377 button ;)
Hahaha - I know - but there is just so many nice things written here on this forum that I just simply love.
All the knowledge about everything…
All new things to learn about hifi… it’s all here.

But most of all - so many nice people here that share their experience with their audio systems and music… And as I love music and hifi so much and feel so happy for each and everyone with the same interest, I can’t help press the ”love-button” so much, haha???. Hope that is okay anyway ;) .

All the best my friends

/ Jk
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Hi Ron, both the piano videos are excellent. It is quite remarkable you are already at this point.

Really? Thank you!

I cannot really tell on solo instrumental. I can tell only by general believability of a singer in the room on my vocals stuff, or by general believability of a jazz group playing in front of me, or by overall, general suspension of disbelief on the few big classical pieces I like compared to what I hear at Walt Disney Concert Hall.

On the Nojima, at 1:22 to 1:37, I thought the piano sounded too tinkly and bright?

(I said the same thing about a piano in a jazz piece when listening with Jim Yager, and he said I just don't know what the upper registers of a piano sound like.)

I still have a lot of low hanging fruit to pick:

1) proper woofer tower positioning

2) proper ribbon panel toe-in

3) fixing 60Hz bass bump

4) playing with some acoustic treatment

5) experimenting with fancy cables on the 47 foot interconnect run

6) power tube swapping on amps

7) tube swapping on Io
 
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Really? Thank you!

I cannot really tell on solo instrumental. I can tell only by general believability of a singer in the room on my vocals stuff, or by overall, general suspension of disbelief on the few big classical pieces I like compared to what I hear at Walt Disney Concert Hall.

On the Nojima, at 1:22 to 1:37, I thought the piano sounded too tinkly and bright?

(I said the same thing about a piano in a jazz piece when listening with Jim Yager, and he said I just don't know what the upper registers of a piano sound like.)

I don't think timbre needs to be exact, it needs to be believable. and your dynamic strikes and continuity and swing of the music is excellent so I listen to that as a whole. Realism is about balance, and on no attribute, including timbre, should it fall below an acceptable level. For example no one is going to accept a speaker with bass cut off at 100hz, but that does not mean you cannot enjoy a system going down to 40hz.
 
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If you like that extraordinary music, try DG 483 7862 with Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli
Thank you for this suggestion!

I did not know I had that Emperor record. I had never heard the piece before yesterday. I see that I bought the LP off of eBay when Harry Pearson's estate (or friends?) was selling off his record collection.

Musically I really like that piece! It definitely gets elevated to one of the seven or eight big classical pieces I really like!

Is your DG suggestion an analog recording or a digital recording? (Recorded in 2019 I thought all of the DG was digitally recorded at that point?)
 
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The emperor was dedicated not to the Emperor but to the Archeduke, who was Beethoven's favorite pupil, and the 4th concerto is also dedicated to him as is the Archeduke trio and the final piano sonata.

Very interesting music history background, thank you!
 
Hi Ron,

Great decision! Now when the system has settle it self down a bit, it is a great time to start and work with the room acoustics. Small fixes here and there, and you will get the sound to where you want it to be in time;). I love tube traps because they both absorb and diffuse at the same time. Actually got five tube traps myself in my room. Two standing on each sides of the room and one laying behind the listening position along the floor/backwall corner, facing the diffusing part 45° back towards the listening position. It works very well - I tell you?:).

Hope you have as much fun in your audio room as I have in mine. Btw: your last video clip - I really liked it… loved the size of the sound… very nice indeed.

/ Jk

Thank you for the suggestions!

I was actually hoping to keep the front of the room completely clean of acoustic stuff. But the 60Hz bump is a mechanical problem in need of a mechanical solution.
 
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