Ron's Speaker, Turntable, Power and Room Treatment Upgrades

Try setting a decently playing NAS music server ... :rolleyes:

BTW, for me "decently playing" means that it plays as good as the equivalent CD spinner.

Simple, you don't. Get an Aurender. Or if you want to delve just a little bit into it, a Linn.
 
. . . What I think about [digital] is stuff for a different thread, not Ron's system quest thread. . . .

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Thank you, Peter!
 
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Shoddy camera work worthy of The Blair Witch Project :p :D

Congratulations on the Pendragons Ron. By the time I get to LA they should be there. Yeehaw!!!!
 
Thank you very much, Jack!

(The speakers may be here, you may be here, but the listening room may not be here yet.)
 
Well, we can always eat. LOL. Love to Tinka Buddy!
 
Ron: CONGRATULATIONs on your choice of a speaker to meet your needs! The Pendragons are drop-dead gorgeous and are reputed to be one of the examples of no-holds barred SOTA speaker construction and design. The greater than 327 messages on this thread seemingly openly seeking advice as to the best directions to take your system has been and will continue to be an extremely interesting weekly read. Thank you for keeping it going, it's a great learning experience!

As for the rest of the most recent part of the forum where people like Frantz are getting beat up for having the temerity to suggest adding a great digital front-end to such a, or any, SOTA system (which if you read the replies, is why he's getting beat up, not because he went off current micro-level topic), come on....open forum, free exchange of ideas, genuine desire to help out another member, no thought-police wanted here and all that.....the best fully-blown out digital can rival the best fully blown out vinyl setups, same with solid state versus tubes. Statements like vinyl will get the tone (and color) right, implying digital does not only proliferates the us versus them aspect of Digital versus Vinyl/R2R.
 
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It's clear even with the audio quality of YouTube, this is one outstanding system. It must sound amazing in person!!!
 
Ron: CONGRATULATIONs on your choice of a speaker to meet your needs! The Pendragons are drop-dead gorgeous and are reputed to be one of the examples of no-holds barred SOTA speaker construction and design. The greater than 327 messages on this thread seemingly openly seeking advice as to the best directions to take your system has been and will continue to be an extremely interesting weekly read. Thank you for keeping it going, it's a great learning experience!

As for the rest of the most recent part of the forum where people like Frantz are getting beat up for having the temerity to suggest adding a great digital front-end to such a, or any, SOTA system (which if you read the replies, is why he's getting beat up, not because he went off current micro-level topic), come on....open forum, free exchange of ideas, genuine desire to help out another member, no thought-police wanted here and all that...

I was nodding in agreement up to here.

...the best fully-blown out digital can rival the best fully blown out vinyl setups,

I disagree. Completely.

same with solid state versus tubes.

Same as above.
 
I was nodding in agreement up to here.
I disagree. Completely.



Same as above.

Good Morning!

Understandable as the above is all one person's (referring to my own message) opinion, and that guy (me) does not know/has not heard it all for sure...at least there's agreement on some of it :D

Have a great day,....thanks for the feedback! Back to Ron's original thread, sorry for the tangential discussion!
 
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Good Morning!

Understandable as the above is all one person's opinion, and that guy does not know/has not heard it all for sure...at least there's agreement on some of it :D

Have a great day,....thanks for the feedback! Back to Ron's original thread, sorry for the tangential discussion!

It's more than one person's opinion, the majority of us with full blown or even above average analog setups know well that digital is no where near analog and probably will never even get there. The same holds true for ss vs tubes, I sell some of the best and to my ears if the speaker doesn't pose a difficult challenge to the electronics no ss can touch the best SETs. The differences are even bigger with phono stages...

david
 
And to DDK's point full blown analog set up does not necessarily mean expensive.

The change in phono stages makes so much more impact than changing high priced preamps, power amps, or moving from oppo to a vivaldi stack
 
And to DDK's point full blown analog set up does not necessarily mean expensive.

The change in phono stages makes so much more impact than changing high priced preamps, power amps, or moving from oppo to a vivaldi stack

Definitely,...there are some great low to mid-priced setups out there for analog and for tube equipment. I've heard, and a long time ago, owned such analog rigs that sounded great.

Generally, the price for SOTA-level SS and Digital gear is MUCH higher.
 
It's more than one person's opinion, the majority of us with full blown or even above average analog setups know well that digital is no where near analog and probably will never even get there. The same holds true for ss vs tubes, I sell some of the best and to my ears if the speaker doesn't pose a difficult challenge to the electronics no ss can touch the best SETs. The differences are even bigger with phono stages...

david

DDK,

Thanks for the great feedback! I realized from your response that my post was ambiguous; 'one person' and 'that guy' referred to my own post. Humble apologies that I was not clear at all; I've edited my post to reflect the true meaning of what I was thinking when writing. Have a great day!
 
It's more than one person's opinion, the majority of us with full blown or even above average analog setups know well that digital is no where near analog and probably will never even get there. The same holds true for ss vs tubes, I sell some of the best and to my ears if the speaker doesn't pose a difficult challenge to the electronics no ss can touch the best SETs. The differences are even bigger with phono stages...

david

I have no experience with full blown analog setups - my usual best is my Forsell turntable and my Studer A80 with Bottlehead tubed external amplifier playing Tapeproject tapes. But I can not consider anymore that digital is no where near analog and probably will never even get there.. IMHO they are different and the gap is created by the equipment and tuning the analog experts naturally introduce in their systems.

Considering the SS versus tube I am a "tube man", mostly because of my musical preferences and the value for money aspect. But ignoring price, I have listened to the ultra expensive to DartZeel and top Constellation Audio sounding perfectly on par with the best tube I have listened to.
 
Can we leave the analog versus digital debate for the analog versus digital threads, please?
 
I believe Bonzo was making the point that the source components can make a substantial difference. I will let him respond.
 
What is the point of this comment?

DDK mentioned "the differences are even bigger with phono stages..." - IME when a phono stage has been changed from one I don't like to one I like, the difference is much higher than changing digital which more or less gives a consistent sound. I have actually ABed the Oppo vs a vivaldi stack along with ABing various other digital, and I mentioned that particular example as these are extremes in price.
 

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