The Grid Protector and the EMI Protector By Scherzinger-In My System and I’m Blown Away
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As of last year:
Schnerzinger Grid Protector $5,950
Schnerzinger EMI Protector $5,950
Schnerzinger LAN Protector $6,750
Schnerzinger Multiguard set of four $7,950
Don't know 2024 prices
Mike
Schnerzinger Grid Protector $5,950
Schnerzinger EMI Protector $5,950
Schnerzinger LAN Protector $6,750
Schnerzinger Multiguard set of four $7,950
Don't know 2024 prices
Mike
Thanks everyone for chiming in regarding these really special devices. I've been representing Schnerzinger in North America for more than 10 years, which continually makes me laugh as I'm the least tweaky audiophile I know. Years ago and in order to be convinced initially, I actually had to be dragged by my colleagues in Germany to the Schnerzinger facility in Dortmund for a demo. What I shockingly (in a good way!) experienced that day is what I've been trying to spread to music lovers since; which is the natural flowing purity that Schnerzinger protectors and wiring bring to the table. When asked to describe, I simply say that I don't really have the vocabulary to explain the sound of no sound; Steve apparently does a much better job than me 
In my own personal journey, I've always sought out the sense of ease and natural flowing beauty that comes from the midrange of a Quad ESL57 or (going back years) Intonation Terzian, Pawel/Ensemble PA1/Symphonic Line RG5 with Görlich - and later Zellaton of course. It's an unforced quality which permeates the senses, allowing one to ease in to the presentation without the common resistance (I call it resistance but most refer to it as fatigue) between listener and system. Schnerzinger manifests this quality of natural flow in all my clients' systems regardless of equipment/speaker choices - and it's that contribution of natural resolution and resultant immersion that I suspect has made it so well received. So in other words, and as Steve is trying to convey, they really aren't tweaks but indispensable components.
While many have often seen Schnerzinger partner with Zellaton, it has found universal praise with all brands i.e., especially Wilson per Steve, Magico, horns of all stripes and now even Living Voice this week - https://www.monoandstereo.com/living-voice-x-schnerzinger/
Because Schnerzinger offers such an extensive lineup of cabling, protectors, power distribution, grounding etc..., please pm me or at gideon@audioartsnyc.com for any questions and in depth explanations.
Gideon
www.audioartsnyc.com
In my own personal journey, I've always sought out the sense of ease and natural flowing beauty that comes from the midrange of a Quad ESL57 or (going back years) Intonation Terzian, Pawel/Ensemble PA1/Symphonic Line RG5 with Görlich - and later Zellaton of course. It's an unforced quality which permeates the senses, allowing one to ease in to the presentation without the common resistance (I call it resistance but most refer to it as fatigue) between listener and system. Schnerzinger manifests this quality of natural flow in all my clients' systems regardless of equipment/speaker choices - and it's that contribution of natural resolution and resultant immersion that I suspect has made it so well received. So in other words, and as Steve is trying to convey, they really aren't tweaks but indispensable components.
While many have often seen Schnerzinger partner with Zellaton, it has found universal praise with all brands i.e., especially Wilson per Steve, Magico, horns of all stripes and now even Living Voice this week - https://www.monoandstereo.com/living-voice-x-schnerzinger/
Because Schnerzinger offers such an extensive lineup of cabling, protectors, power distribution, grounding etc..., please pm me or at gideon@audioartsnyc.com for any questions and in depth explanations.
Gideon
www.audioartsnyc.com
The current and recently released versions of the Grid and EMI protectors, have 3 switches. See below...
Gideon
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Gideon, this is interesting material. To begin, I wonder if Steve would consider moving this to a stand alone thread (in the general discussion section?) rather than post it under the Zellaton umbrella thread to make it easier to find?Thanks everyone for chiming in regarding these really special devices. I've been representing Schnerzinger in North America for more than 10 years, which continually makes me laugh as I'm the least tweaky audiophile I know. Years ago and in order to be convinced initially, I actually had to be dragged by my colleagues in Germany to the Schnerzinger facility in Dortmund for a demo. What I shockingly (in a good way!) experienced that day is what I've been trying to spread to music lovers since; which is the natural flowing purity that Schnerzinger protectors and wiring bring to the table. When asked to describe, I simply say that I don't really have the vocabulary to explain the sound of no sound; Steve apparently does a much better job than me
In my own personal journey, I've always sought out the sense of ease and natural flowing beauty that comes from the midrange of a Quad ESL57 or (going back years) Intonation Terzian, Pawel/Ensemble PA1/Symphonic Line RG5 with Görlich - and later Zellaton of course. It's an unforced quality which permeates the senses, allowing one to ease in to the presentation without the common resistance (I call it resistance but most refer to it as fatigue) between listener and system. Schnerzinger manifests this quality of natural flow in all my clients' systems regardless of equipment/speaker choices - and it's that contribution of natural resolution and resultant immersion that I suspect has made it so well received. So in other words, and as Steve is trying to convey, they really aren't tweaks but indispensable components.
While many have often seen Schnerzinger partner with Zellaton, it has found universal praise with all brands i.e., especially Wilson per Steve, Magico, horns of all stripes and now even Living Voice this week - https://www.monoandstereo.com/living-voice-x-schnerzinger/
Because Schnerzinger offers such an extensive lineup of cabling, protectors, power distribution, grounding etc..., please pm me or at gideon@audioartsnyc.com for any questions and in depth explanations.
Gideon
www.audioartsnyc.com
More specifically, perhaps you could explain some of the pointers mentioned on the Schnerzinger site. My specific questions are:
The GRID PROTECTOR operates on 3 dedicated circuits:
PHASE - Cleansing of the current carrying lines I guess my confusion is understanding how it operates such that it can distinguish what is occurring on "current carrying lines". Does this refer to the "hot" and "neutral" lines only or does it include the "ground line" (earth ground)?
EARTH - Clears up all protective conductors What exactly is the "protective conductor" in an earth line-the insulation? I'm not familiar with the concept that a wire insulation needs "clearing up". Am I missing something?
INTENSITY - Operational intensity of cleansing- This one's easy. Whatever signal the Grid Protector generates, there's a switch that controls the emission intensity or gain. No problem with that.
If I understand correctly, the device does not remove any RFI or EMI signal from the room specifically. Rather, there is a counter radiation generated that has a sonic benefit which is most likely is due to a psychophysical effect on perception of the counter-generated radiation. Is that a fair statement? I look forward to learning more.
Hi Gideon. I just got FedEX notice that the EMI Protector arrives tomorrow. After being truly astonished by what the Grid protector did in my system, I am so looking forward to hooking this next little box up and hearing the change. Should this be a positive , as we discussed, the next thing I want to demo is the Allocator. You have made me a believer and to read the testimonials here such as that from Mike Malinowski gives me redemption that I am not drinking the Kool Aid. Truly remarkable and hoping the same for the EMI for which I will provide updates here
stay tuned for more as I received the EMI Protector yesterday which I just hooked up. We had a power failure yesterday for over 12 hours in 112 degree heat. I am only getting it hooked up now
Bear in mind that these protectors are meant for entire sound system not just the digital side, plus it removes everything else that is coming from the rest of my house
Bear in mind that these protectors are meant for entire sound system not just the digital side, plus it removes everything else that is coming from the rest of my house
Just when you feel you've been blown away, along comes the EMI Protector to blow me even more. How could this be possible.? Am I drinking the Kool Aid? I think not !
I received the EMI Protector yesterday and TBH it looks just like the Grid Protector although it felt heavier. It comes with the standard size antenna and one that is big enough for a room that must be the size of a foot ball field.Just like the Grid Protector, set up and installation is under 5 minutes. Unlike the Grid Protector that uses a dedicated AC cable and a wall wart the EMI Protector only uses a wall wart. Both devices have 3 rear switches each having 0 ( off) and 1 and 2 for degrees of greatness. I’m by all admission an audio hog who wants it all so just like the Grid Protector where I had all three in the 1 position for 10 minutes before I quickly and permanently switched all 3 to position two. Hence my report is based on both devices in position 2 for maximum effect. There really is no burn in time even though I let it run for 2 days before posting this …
What I’m prepared to say is that the EMI Protector in combination with the grid protector made a huge leap upward for the better. Here 1 + 1 is not 2 but likely 3 or 4 These are devices that don’t add anything. Rather it is what they remove that produces such an amazing sound.
Nothing is colored and nothing is accentuated. Instead the dynamics, timber and tone is as natural a sound as one can ever imagine The clarity of what I hear be it human voice or instruments is so natural that the sense of presence and an “ I am there” sensation is the first thing that comes to mind. The attack and speed of drum stick on the skins was virtually explosive. The air around the instruments and the vocals was so obvious that it was almost as if the notes were floating in front of me as the decay was so real. Every parameter is improved with the result being ultimate natural flow. It’s as if the EMI picks up where the Grid left off. I have many demo disks which I have used for decades to highlight various things I search out. What was also a WTF moment was the plucking of guitar strings. I’ve never experienced such separation around the strings and a sense of realism. So also was the tone of the piano. To me piano is the most difficult to get right and this was dead on. The keys when struck just floated into the air before dissipating. Finally the feeling of air around everything that I experienced with the Grid Protector was even better with the two combined .
And to prove I wasn’t drinking the Kool Aid the A-B-A test is instant by merely turning all 3 switches from the 2 to the off position as the music is playing. Immediately everything is gone. I haven’t played both separately to determine how much contribution is gleaned from each protector. My sense, albeit a hunch, and untested is that the EMI is the superior of the two however the two together are “ off the grid” ( no pun intended)
My final revelation was the best of all. Ever since I’ve owned the Lamm ML3 amplifier which has 6 very large transformers on each channel and in both home that this gear has resided I’ve had a transformer buzz that I have heretofore been unable to tame by whatever means tried. I’ve learned to accept it as my amplifiers sit between both speakers. This plus the modification that Wilson audio does to the magnet in the tweeter has made this buzz impossible to ameliorate. The buzz would always become audible when i unmuted each channel of my preamp. Today when i unmuted both channels it was suddenly another WTF moment as there was dead silence. I put my ear up to the tweeter and midrange drivers and could just barely hear what previously was quite noticeable. Turn the 3 EMI switches off and the buzz was again easily audible. That to me was the defining moment. There was for my ears nothing more to test
As I said, these protectors add nothing to the sound but rather it is all about what they remove. These protectors are a must try in every system. The rewards are indescribable except to coin a phrase …. everything sounds natural. PRAT also comes to mind. The sense of reality and presence truly is as natural as I’ve ever heard
Again this is not a tweak but rather an essential part of any audible system
Up next and soon to arrive is the Allocator to put the icing on the cake, or so I hope
Stay tuned …….
I received the EMI Protector yesterday and TBH it looks just like the Grid Protector although it felt heavier. It comes with the standard size antenna and one that is big enough for a room that must be the size of a foot ball field.Just like the Grid Protector, set up and installation is under 5 minutes. Unlike the Grid Protector that uses a dedicated AC cable and a wall wart the EMI Protector only uses a wall wart. Both devices have 3 rear switches each having 0 ( off) and 1 and 2 for degrees of greatness. I’m by all admission an audio hog who wants it all so just like the Grid Protector where I had all three in the 1 position for 10 minutes before I quickly and permanently switched all 3 to position two. Hence my report is based on both devices in position 2 for maximum effect. There really is no burn in time even though I let it run for 2 days before posting this …
What I’m prepared to say is that the EMI Protector in combination with the grid protector made a huge leap upward for the better. Here 1 + 1 is not 2 but likely 3 or 4 These are devices that don’t add anything. Rather it is what they remove that produces such an amazing sound.
Nothing is colored and nothing is accentuated. Instead the dynamics, timber and tone is as natural a sound as one can ever imagine The clarity of what I hear be it human voice or instruments is so natural that the sense of presence and an “ I am there” sensation is the first thing that comes to mind. The attack and speed of drum stick on the skins was virtually explosive. The air around the instruments and the vocals was so obvious that it was almost as if the notes were floating in front of me as the decay was so real. Every parameter is improved with the result being ultimate natural flow. It’s as if the EMI picks up where the Grid left off. I have many demo disks which I have used for decades to highlight various things I search out. What was also a WTF moment was the plucking of guitar strings. I’ve never experienced such separation around the strings and a sense of realism. So also was the tone of the piano. To me piano is the most difficult to get right and this was dead on. The keys when struck just floated into the air before dissipating. Finally the feeling of air around everything that I experienced with the Grid Protector was even better with the two combined .
And to prove I wasn’t drinking the Kool Aid the A-B-A test is instant by merely turning all 3 switches from the 2 to the off position as the music is playing. Immediately everything is gone. I haven’t played both separately to determine how much contribution is gleaned from each protector. My sense, albeit a hunch, and untested is that the EMI is the superior of the two however the two together are “ off the grid” ( no pun intended)
My final revelation was the best of all. Ever since I’ve owned the Lamm ML3 amplifier which has 6 very large transformers on each channel and in both home that this gear has resided I’ve had a transformer buzz that I have heretofore been unable to tame by whatever means tried. I’ve learned to accept it as my amplifiers sit between both speakers. This plus the modification that Wilson audio does to the magnet in the tweeter has made this buzz impossible to ameliorate. The buzz would always become audible when i unmuted each channel of my preamp. Today when i unmuted both channels it was suddenly another WTF moment as there was dead silence. I put my ear up to the tweeter and midrange drivers and could just barely hear what previously was quite noticeable. Turn the 3 EMI switches off and the buzz was again easily audible. That to me was the defining moment. There was for my ears nothing more to test
As I said, these protectors add nothing to the sound but rather it is all about what they remove. These protectors are a must try in every system. The rewards are indescribable except to coin a phrase …. everything sounds natural. PRAT also comes to mind. The sense of reality and presence truly is as natural as I’ve ever heard
Again this is not a tweak but rather an essential part of any audible system
Up next and soon to arrive is the Allocator to put the icing on the cake, or so I hope
Stay tuned …….
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