Now that depends completely on who is answering the question. What would I do? I would assume that the mods are screwing up the FR of the component and send the damn thing back to TUC. By the way, everyone still involved in this thread, with the exception of TUC, their lawyers, and their poor fans, deserves some kind of medal for patience.
One problem with the "customer testimonial" model is that the negative comments typically don't reach the internet community. Many buyers will not step out publicly and state that they made a poor purchasing decision. There's very little incentive to look like a fool to millions of folks. So, we have a company that performs work on electronic gear. They will not delineate exactly what they do in their modifications. Warranty service is denied if the unit is opened to inspect the work that was done (correct?).
Therefore, all that remains is comments from end users. Of course, we have all seen the discussions that question the accuracy of the human senses (especially hearing) when examining small differences. So, the positive testimonials are often credited to "expectation bias".
In the absence of a straight-forward published review showing FR measurements, or black levels on video components, etc., we are left in this pool of confusion. Add to this quandary the argumentative nature of the company's owner, and a simple answer to this situation seems unlikely.
It is your call. But there are a number of us from a thread on AVS that are trying to do some testing of some stock versus upgraded equipment including the Onkyo 885 Pre/Pro and the Oppo 83/Oppo 83SE near Lancaster, PA. We are trying to get things in order for the testing and trying to get everything in place. It is just taking us some time. When Jeff and others brought things up it was spilling over from AVS thread where I am trying to be an keep things civil. I just tried to field questions. I am sorry if I have caused any problems.
It is your call. But there are a number of us from a thread on AVS that are trying to do some testing of some stock versus upgraded equipment including the Onkyo 885 Pre/Pro and the Oppo 83/Oppo 83SE near Lancaster, PA. We are trying to get things in order for the testing and trying to get everything in place. It is just taking us some time. When Jeff and others brought things up it was spilling over from AVS thread where I am trying to be an keep things civil. I just tried to field questions. I am sorry if I have caused any problems.
That's because it's like a train wreck-you just gotta look at it. Mystery man doing mystery mods making giant claims with no measurements to back them up and constantly threatening to sue people. The part I find hard to believe is that he has any customers at all.
You're right,but I could have easily been fooled. I'm just a audio hobbyist, but my experience is there are different levels or degrees of upgrades. Any where from subtle to jaw dropping and Holys***. After 43 pages I would gather that most upgrades are between subtle and above. A holysh*** upgrade is rarer than most want to admit. In this game you pay whatever you feel it's worth,if your not happy,go somewhere else.
One problem with the "customer testimonial" model is that the negative comments typically don't reach the internet community. Many buyers will not step out publicly and state that they made a poor purchasing decision. There's very little incentive to look like a fool to millions of folks. So, we have a company that performs work on electronic gear. They will not delineate exactly what they do in their modifications. Warranty service is denied if the unit is opened to inspect the work that was done (correct?).
Therefore, all that remains is comments from end users. Of course, we have all seen the discussions that question the accuracy of the human senses (especially hearing) when examining small differences. So, the positive testimonials are often credited to "expectation bias".
In the absence of a straight-forward published review showing FR measurements, or black levels on video components, etc., we are left in this pool of confusion. Add to this quandary the argumentative nature of the company's owner, and a simple answer to this situation seems unlikely.
I think the promotional value is a side effect. There is a benefit to the community that can go beyond the sheer entertainment value of the dueling proponents and opponents if it causes people to do some objective comparisons. IMO.
I think the promotional value is a side effect. There is a benefit to the community that can go beyond the sheer entertainment value of the dueling proponents and opponents if it causes people to do some objective comparisons. IMO.
