When are you guys defending manufacturers going to admit defeat? We've WON.
Misdirection may be an effective debating tactic in high-school but doesn't work here. The topic of this thread is not other equipment. We have myriad of threads to discuss other companies' products.
The purpose of this thread is to find out the capabilities of your company and your personal expertise in making these changes.
To "win" this argument, you need to put forth your expertise and have it be evaluated by the members. So far, you have avoided doing that.
We're still winning new satisfied customers all the time.
Did you watch 60 minutes this past weekend? They repeated an episode on a guy who claims to be a doctor and curing non-curable diseases. He was doing well until the story was done and now the doors are closed. People were paying >$200K+ for such treatment. If you have not seen it, here is the video:
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7357912n
So the fact that someone pays you money is not proof of effectiveness.
Manufacturers cannot earn a BBB A+ rating, or a JD Power Customer Satisfaction award because they build stuff cheap, owners often complain of getting extremely little perfomrance increase for thie money from stock high end audio electronics.
Once more, you are misdirecting. If police arrested you, is your defense going to be to point to the jail and say "look how many guilty people are there with worse crimes so let me go?"
But I will play. For grins, I put in Mark Levinson which BBB nicely redirected to Harman Specialty group which has many brands such as Lexicon, JBL, Revel, etc. This is their rating:
http://www.bbb.org/boston/business-...s/harman-specialty-group-in-bedford-ma-37096/
"Based on BBB files, this business has a BBB Rating of A+ on a scale from A+ to F.
Factor(s) that raised this business' rating include:
Length of time business has been operating.
No complaints filed with BBB.
BBB has sufficient background information on this business."
So here we have a large company which in one hour deals with more customers than you will do in your company for years to come and doesn't have the one complaint you had. So maybe we can dispense with generalizations like this.
Just buy the products and see for yourself.
Your job is to sell before we buy!
I assume you have not noticed the review section of Amazon. If people didn't need reassurance from others that something was good and valid, we would not have that or social media like this one.
Read the reviews and personal eyewitness testimonials from our clients.
Get those clients here and let's talk to them.
Those of you paying sky high prices for high end audio gear built overseas with low cost generic parts are losing out.
That may be the case but you need to demonstrate that you know more than they do. Blindly replacing parts with higher rating/higher specs is not always correct. In some cases, this can lead to safety and reliability issues.
I have a ton of work to do and I am not going to sit here and go around in circles waiting for you to admit your defeat.
When we started on this conversation I thought one of two things would happen:
1. You would put up a technical defense of your approach and we would have a nice exchange. That did not happen. The data you provided for example on HDMI video improvement shows no understanding of that interface or its performance. The data on the blue goop was far worse, throwing terms around in the age of Internet and not knowing about resources of Wikipedia.
2. You would know that you can't defend your practices and would instead decide to leave. And make up some debate tactic on why.
I am saddened to see you resort to #2. It certainly does not benefit your future customers that you all of a sudden are too busy to discuss the vary nature of what you do.
We've been vetted and verified for years, yet some continue to try to defend manufacturers.
No one in this thread has decided to talk let alone defend manufacturers. If a 16 year old kid set up shop to increase performance of an M3 to double its horsepower, folks would ask questions about the 16 year old, not merits of parts in BMW. That you think otherwise is again, a high-school debate tactic that doesn't work with people with half decent IQ.
Remember, for you to better the skill and expertise of equipment designers, you have to show to be smarter than them. I have done my share of designs but I don't hold a candle to them. That you can't even get past my questioning says a lot about your abilities and perhaps, work that you do.