Tripoint troy signature grounding device
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spirit, I think Faraday shielding may be part of it. The Starsound engineers (Sistrum rack guys) have grounded their racks using Tripoint at a show in the past and were the ones who first mentioned it to me. They talked about an increased grounding sink or plane and increased efficiency akin to what you see with different grounding cable configurations. I am going to try it for sure....
Very interesting TBG. You are a veteran tweaker. I too had the Granite Audio unit. It was effective for ground loops and dropped the noise floor to a modest degree. Great company. I owned their CDP at one time.
Have you tried the Synergistic's treatments for subpanel switches? I have a friend who swears by that treatment.
What is most startling to me about all this subject is the fact (experiential fact) that a system can be rendered more 3D and holographic by ancillary/tweak components that many people don't believe in....
Believe it or not spirit, Miguel and I had discussed the concept of the grounding the room. So, I am as crazy as you are and even crazier as this is all still in the theoretical or experimental plane.
Your findings about isolating the various grounding elements mirrors what the AE crowd have discovered (and thus the preponderance of systems over their with more than one Troy....
)I credit Dale Pitcher from Mosaic Audio with stimulating my interest in grounding. He has been recommending various grounding schemes for his sound rooms for over 25 years. Typically, this has meant some form of dedicated ionic grounding (to code) in the name of lowering the noise floor, etc.
This is a serious q, Geardaddy. Grounding the room is one step too far for me, as it would be for 99.9% of people. But then again, my favourite cafe owner only believes you should spend $50 on a secondhand iPod and headphones for musical nirvana and thinks my efforts are OTT loco! Tbh, I used to love my music as a 9 yr old in '73 on my mum's cheap transistor radio, and here I am now, a few steps beyond. I live on the upper floor of an urban apartment, there is no way I could contemplate an ionic rod etc.
If you're really going to expt to these limits, it's then time to go really radical - ground y'self! I'm really not joking, surely we as a complex biochemical organism are producing electrical currents and potentials, our whole nervous system a complicated series of battery-like stored/discharged energies etc. WE are the most promising component of all to ground.
Put that to Miguel, and ask if he can make up something special for this most uber of tweaks.
If you're really going to expt to these limits, it's then time to go really radical - ground y'self! I'm really not joking, surely we as a complex biochemical organism are producing electrical currents and potentials, our whole nervous system a complicated series of battery-like stored/discharged energies etc. WE are the most promising component of all to ground.
Put that to Miguel, and ask if he can make up something special for this most uber of tweaks.
spirit, Wilson Cheng referenced the "polluted" electronic noise environment (brought about partly by living in close quarters) in Asia as one reason why grounding is sonically dramatic there, and I am sure the same applies to you and others in the UK. The room idea is loony tunes stuff and will most likely not come to pass. As for grounding the subject, I wear an electronic shock collar that my wife requested. In that scenario, my skin functions as sink or ground....
as an aside, I have external xovers that I will ground along with ICs and SW that have grounding leads. Should be an interesting experiment once it commences....
I love this comment. I have constantly had those who think I'm crazy, but I think that many manufacturers, reviewers, and audiophiles cannot hear or at least values aspects of music reproduction that I don't value. Having music with little high end and with a warm midrange doesn't float my boat. I hear enormous differences between cables, speaker wires, and power cords. In reality I find the magic of realism that I hear to be very fragile. I have looked at my ac on a scope and seen what hash there is evident there, including modulation which is the power companies communicating with each other.
My Stillpoint rack being on the Troy Signature didn't add much. But perhaps using the Troy SE grounding wire might be impressive.
My wife about twenty years ago, threw me out of her living room saying that she wanted to get rid of the laboratory, prompting our buying a house with a big game room on the second floor. She virtually never comes into this room.
Finally, I think that a faraday cage would be great for music reproduction and even thought of installing copper mesh around the room, but I have to realize that this would be costly to install as well as to remove to sell the house. I also thought of doing that around my equipment, but a seminar at the VSAC conference many years ago suggested that copper mesh is not enough shielding. I gave up this idea also.
Ahhh, the lab. Sounds like my world and my wife.
I will pimp Robert and the Starsound gang more about grounding the their stands. The Stillpoints use a loose hybrid of materials, including a Delrin termination, so I am not surprised they don't work with grounding. I know Miguel also uses a hybrid of materials which probably explains his findings.
The Faraday cage room would be fascinating.....
Hmm, I have the Star Sound Apprentices under my Koda and my BMC M2 monoblocks. All three of these have Silver wire grounds, but I could also run grounds to the Apprentices. I will try that tomorrow. I wonder how I can connect the ground to the Apprentice. I guess since I only use three points, I could just put it between the Audio Points and the platform. But this would not be grounding the steel platform because of the finish on it.
Tom's idea of the conducive gel is a good one. I have a conductive paste that I have toyed with and will try that....
I am going to use my meter today and see what is going on. I know that annodized aluminum's surface is conductive. Therefore the chassis of an aluminum component would not be grounded through the Audio Points to the Apprentice shelf. I really don't expect much from grounding the shelves, but I will give doing so a try.
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