What Does This Mean for US-Iran relations and the Middle East?

MylesBAstor

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Too early to tell, but it should calm some fears in the short-term. Huge surprise to me and I hope it's an outcome that stands.
 
Not much, IMO. The ayatollah still runs the show...these guys are the figure head puppets.

True enough but this guy has some different credentials and lineage.

Curious they [the conservatives] were confident enough to let him run.

Whatever, sure seems like the people spoke and the same revolution eg. student protests seen in the rest of the Middle East is still alive in Iran.
 
I think just having someone educated and smarter is a good thing for them, and our relationship with them. He has s PhD in Law and speaks multiple languages including English. This should all bode well for at least some level of improvement beyond where we are. It is hard to associate a cleric with moderate views but those are the reports about his position from multiple news outlets. Let's put it this way, he can't make things worse than it was!
 
I think just having someone educated and smarter is a good thing for them, and our relationship with them. He has s PhD in Law and speaks multiple languages including English. This should all bode well for at least some level of improvement beyond where we are. It is hard to associate a cleric with moderate views but those are the reports about his position from multiple news outlets. Let's put it this way, he can't make things worse than it was!


Reminds me when Andropov came to power in the USSR and the intelligensia cited his fondness for Glen Miller and ability to speak English, yet disregarded the inconvenient truth that his previous job was head of the KGB...Meanwhile, the centrifuges are still spinning...
 
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A president remains a president and has thr potential to preside. The man has a track record and prestige. He has shown he can be his own man and has his own , unorthodox ideas.
History is full of such outsiders who go and make great changes. Not that he will necessarily but the potential is there . This no fool ful of hot air and stupid rethoric. At least so far. Progress in peace negotiations are made with extending good faith not systematically demonizing the other side. We in the US have also some skeletons in our closets concerning Iran..we should not forget what we did in the 50s bringing that fool and keeping him in power.
 
Frantz-The president of Iran has very limited powers and really can't step outside of the box. You have to love their Guardian Council who decides who can even be on the ballot. The true reformers weren't even allowed to run for office.
 
We have to remember that even an Ayatollah needs to have a stable base for support. That chink in the armor showed a few years ago. Looking at 2009, it seems the next generation's voice can no longer be ignored. Maintaining a hard line stance in this light would not be in the Ayatollah's best interest lest he lose all control. He is not Khomeini and I think he knows it.
 
We have to remember that even an Ayatollah needs to have a stable base for support. That chink in the armor showed a few years ago. Looking at 2009, it seems the next generation's voice can no longer be ignored. Maintaining a hard line stance in this light would not be in the Ayatollah's best interest lest he lose all control. He is not Khomeini and I think he knows it.

Jack-I hear what you are saying, but the evidence shows that the Republican Guard and their hooligans are in firm control of Iran. The people felt the last election was rigged and they protested and tried to reverse it, but they were all beaten down.
 
I don't think it means a damn thing because whoever is president is subservient to the Grand Poo-Bah cleric that really runs Iran.
Despite that, he has made comments that would anyone's head spin there with regards to better relations in US, censorship of media, etc. Being a cleric, he can't be quickly accused of being anti-islam and pushed aside. He is "one of them" yet appears to be different.

So sure, you can't assume too much change will automatically come. But imagine if he was the same or worse version of the last president!
 
Amir-One thing for sure is that the new president was vetted by the election council that decides who can and can't be on the ballot. Based on past history, I can't see any president of Iran having wide latitude from the clerics that actually run Iran.
 
Jack-I hear what you are saying, but the evidence shows that the Republican Guard and their hooligans are in firm control of Iran. The people felt the last election was rigged and they protested and tried to reverse it, but they were all beaten down.

A nation can only take too much beating down. That's what history shows. I think the fact that they had to resort to it in the first place is evidence of erosion.
 
If he wants to talk with the West, certainly Iran's supports of terrorists and terrorist organizations will certainly be discussed.
 
Reminds me when Andropov came to power in the USSR and the intelligensia cited his fondness for Glen Miller and ability to speak English, yet disregarded the inconvenient truth that his previous job was head of the KGB...Meanwhile, the centrifuges are still spinning...

Exactly, and if the guy is actually smarter than his predecessor, it makes him even more dangerous. I believe that most people in the West do not understand the longterm goal of the people who run the Middle East. That goal is not in our best interest, and that is an understatement.
 
There is so much history between the U.S. and Iran that's not even being touched on. The whole middle east is coming apart at the seams right now. There are lots of proxy wars going on right now in Syria and Iran is in the thick of it.
 
Who is Iran backing in Syria?
 

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