I’m planning to use them together, having already got how GP + PZ can be a marriage made in heaven! Read my previous post on this thread.
The Grid Protector, the EMI Protector and The Allocator By Schnerzinger-In My System and I’m Blown Away
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The height does have an effect. I found stands on amazon that are perfect for the Protectors. Unobtrusive, metal, adjustable height and only $20 each.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08J7QWJ9...918-c104-45c2-8710-de8dfd12f7e1&pd_rd_plhdr=t
speaking of making a difference, my intent with the Allocator was always to have it sitting on a Critical Mass System platform but I found my self limited by the length of on of the Masterbuilt cables. The 2 meter MB Ultra arrived and I did a double whammy . I took the Chin Cheng PC off my Taiko IO and replaced it with the 1.5 meter MB Ultra that was on my Lampi Horizon 360 and put the new 2 meter MB Ultra on the Lampi and the change was somewhat astonishing. Emile did say that a good PC on the IO is indeed something which improves sound quality and then the Allocator now sitting on a CMS platform made for a tighter and somewhat better defined mid bass and deep bass. The subtle nuances now sound so much more present thus to my ears enhancing that sense of realism
I now have the PC's from my phono stage out of the Furman and now in the Allocator. Today I did some serious listening to vinyl and the silence was ever-present and the Furman is indeed obsolete and will be removed from my system. Much like the digital side of my system the feature which I found most noticeable was the tightness and better defined mid bass and deep bass. Everything just seemed so much cleaner so bottom line for me is that whatever the Protectors and Allocator do for digital so also is the effect pretty much identical when listening to vinyl
I'm looking forward to getting those stands @vinyl_mike
I'm looking forward to getting those stands @vinyl_mike
I went from one extreme to another ( no pun intended) as my NAS was initially located in our downstairs guest bedroom where my network and home router is. It was initially plugged into the main router but my wife didn't like it there as she felt it interfered with our guests so I moved it upstairs and it is being power by the taiko DCD and wired into the Taiko router. I had the extra CMS platform as Joe built one for me which had better tolerance for the increase weight of the Olympus and IO .It's big enough to support both the NAS and the Allocator
My guess is, in a setup with nearly complete Schnerzinger measures and no compensating components, the Allocator will be clearly superior, while in a setup with mixed components + cabling and only little Schnerzinger optimization yet, it will depend on the setup.
Thinking of a final goal, I don’t see much sense in mixing within one setup different concepts of different manufacturers, in case you can get a holistic approach from one or both manufacturers. However in an interim status, such combinations will sound great anlready anyway.
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I just sat down to listen so give me a few hours
These stands BTW are well constructed and easy to assemble,. I assembled both in about 20 minutes
Thanks, Steve. Take your time.
Mines will be here tomorrow, 20 minutes to assemble them? I’m in trouble!
Just tried last days both the protectors elevated at 40-50 cms, you’ll be surprised! Even moving them in different places behind the amps on the front wall can affect the result.
Mines will be here tomorrow, 20 minutes to assemble them? I’m in trouble!
Just tried last days both the protectors elevated at 40-50 cms, you’ll be surprised! Even moving them in different places behind the amps on the front wall can affect the result.
Please don’t ignore, and it should be pointed out, that the effect that the different placement of these boxes within your room may even have more of an influence (strictly on a sound wave level) on the sound (for better or worse) than the actual intended purpose of design.
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so here's the first update. I did not move the placement of the Grid or the EMI protector. I merely elevated them on these neat little speaker holders that Mike discovered. I plan on keeping their placement as is .
Much to my amazement there was a difference that has taken me a few hours t figure out. It is difficult to put unto words except initially the first thing was "a much cleaner sound". This for me translated into more detail . Once again the subtle nuances that were previously enjoyed were just so much more audible and engaging. I always use my demo disks that I have played thousands of times for years and I know inside out. The thing which stood out most was the speed and attack as well as the definition of the deep bass. The dynamics were explosive. I have several demo tracks with drum solos and I have to admit I was pleasantly surprised that they sounded so much better than what I have heard heretofore, even with the Protectors on the floor. There just seemed to be so much air around everything giving better spatial clues to my brain. This is not a subtle uptick but need to be heard in one's system after they know what they have been hearing with the Protectors on the ground
In terms of how big of an uptick, I am not about to give percentages but I can say that it is significant. Its taken the last several hours for me to wrap my head around the sound now
@vinyl_mike ...thank you for the advice and my going to school on your putt
The only other thing I can say is that I did not feed the wall wart cable up the center of the stand. It's barely noticeable as is
Much to my amazement there was a difference that has taken me a few hours t figure out. It is difficult to put unto words except initially the first thing was "a much cleaner sound". This for me translated into more detail . Once again the subtle nuances that were previously enjoyed were just so much more audible and engaging. I always use my demo disks that I have played thousands of times for years and I know inside out. The thing which stood out most was the speed and attack as well as the definition of the deep bass. The dynamics were explosive. I have several demo tracks with drum solos and I have to admit I was pleasantly surprised that they sounded so much better than what I have heard heretofore, even with the Protectors on the floor. There just seemed to be so much air around everything giving better spatial clues to my brain. This is not a subtle uptick but need to be heard in one's system after they know what they have been hearing with the Protectors on the ground
I tend to agree with this comment and Im going to stick with the advice given to me by Gideon and hearing what I hear now, I have zero desire to move these from where they are now.
In terms of how big of an uptick, I am not about to give percentages but I can say that it is significant. Its taken the last several hours for me to wrap my head around the sound now
@vinyl_mike ...thank you for the advice and my going to school on your putt
The only other thing I can say is that I did not feed the wall wart cable up the center of the stand. It's barely noticeable as is
I’m too lazy to search through the thread, but what experience do you guys have with plugging the GP into the Hifi power cirquit vs. into the non Hifi one?
Plugging the SMPS into the Hifi cirquit should certainly definitely be avoided, but from what I understood of the manual, also the big plug should go preferably into the non HiFi cirquit. I at least I left it like this after some trials.
Plugging the SMPS into the Hifi cirquit should certainly definitely be avoided, but from what I understood of the manual, also the big plug should go preferably into the non HiFi cirquit. I at least I left it like this after some trials.
The owner manual recommends to keep it plugged into the same circuit as the system
I initially used a wall socket of the same circuit, then I plugged it into a spare outlet of the Gryphon PowerZone (consider it a power strip not a conditioner!) and I liked the latter way more. I’d say that IME the closer to hifi, the better.
I initially used a wall socket of the same circuit, then I plugged it into a spare outlet of the Gryphon PowerZone (consider it a power strip not a conditioner!) and I liked the latter way more. I’d say that IME the closer to hifi, the better.
Not sure if you were asking me or Steve. Anyway, attached is my setup taken a few months ago before the Schnerzingers.Wow! What does your main system look like?
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