Who’s up for a $2800 fuse?

[the sound of Tao]

What happens if your house burns down?
Or even worse, someone gets harmed in a fire the missing fuse could cause?
I wouldn't want to live with that burdon on my conscience

I also think it’s important to not burn your house down Christoph… WAF would be very low

 

[the sound of Tao]

I’ve got WE300Bs coming in for one of my SET amps at $1500 USD for the pair… think they might likely shift my system more than a $2800 USD fuse… the tubes with 5 years warranty included.

 

[dcathro]

What happens if your house burns down?
Or even worse, someone gets harmed in a fire the missing fuse could cause?
I wouldn't want to live with that burdon on my conscience

There are fuses in the mains circuit that will trip if there is a serious issue.

 

[Argonaut]

Lest we forget that the primary function of a fuse Is to give its life in order to protect... $2800 seems an awful lot of cash to gamble in sending up in smoke...quite literally!

 

[christoph]

There are fuses in the mains circuit that will trip if there is a serious issue.

Your insurance company will tell you otherwise

 

[Willgolf]

I’m definitely comfortable with fuses… even short ones But your logic that a $2800 fuse doesn’t offer much return on investment makes a great case for itself.

I do think a differential circuit breaker is essential and that it’s still easily possible to build an amazing system that won’t kill you and that is not a bad option. Not totally risk averse though but I’ve never found anything other than subtle differences with fuses but certainly not night and day shifts like other upgrades… tbh I’d rather put the money into getting in better drivers or crossover components.

I am comfortable with the idea of a fuse also. I think any tweak that you do is something that helps make your system sound better in totality. I have a ton of tweaks and I can't honestly say one is better that the other. I think we are looking for the ultimate tweak that will make our systems sound incredible. I just don't think that exists.
Even though I love my Viking Acoustic Grande Voix Dual horn speakers, my next tweak will be to upgrade the drivers and crossovers in them. So, we are on the same page.

 

[the sound of Tao]

I am comfortable with the idea of a fuse also. I think any tweak that you do is something that helps make your system sound better in totality. I have a ton of tweaks and I can't honestly say one is better that the other. I think we are looking for the ultimate tweak that will make our systems sound incredible. I just don't think that exists.
Even though I love my Viking Acoustic Grande Voix Dual horn speakers, my next tweak will be to upgrade the drivers and crossovers in them. So, we are on the same page.

In agreement… especially on the horns

I am reminded how distant all our worlds are… would love to see your gear, there are some fabulous setups here and your speakers look really interesting… love to get a sneak peak.

Tweaks as system optimising is part of the enjoyment. I’ve broadened my aims and like most have tried a range and do find taking time to evaluate the outcomes is important but also though have found a full suite of outcomes from positive through to negative and from great to very small. I find key in eval is to sit quietly for some time and listen to all kinds of my usual music preferences and live both consciously and also in unfocused ways for the changes to better appreciate them. Definitely having some effective benchmark to assess against and doing both particular as well as holistic assessment is important from my perspective. Also having a budget conscious approach makes things easier in many ways. I find it easier to rule out the things that I can’t afford

Both accumulative and enmeshed changes can come out of these mods so assessment of them tends be very particular but then needs to be viewed also as in terms of summative evaluation and also reflect holistic outcomes… so for me not just do I prefer them in or out but also how has the implementation changed my experience of music and informed what I also listen to.

I do find investing all these many years trying a range of approaches helps us to zero in the compass and then understand our goals better as well.

Reason says to me though that a fuse designed to end it’s life to protect yours is a good investment. But if it’s primary function is essentially to be a sacrificial component so then making its life ending not be an crazily unaffordable one factors in for sure. Maybe part of the brief on this choice needs to be an area where we have compliance as a main goal along with affordability in operation and reasonable costs in life cycle. So for me I see $2800 to be wildly excessive here… but we are all here for our own learnin. To each their own and may the force (and the music) and the choice be always with us all.

 

[Willgolf]

In agreement… especially on the horns

I am reminded how distant all our worlds are… would love to see your gear, there are some fabulous setups here and your speakers look really interesting… love to get a sneak peak.

Tweaks as system optimising is part of the enjoyment. I’ve broadened my aims and like most have tried a range and do find taking time to evaluate the outcomes is important but also though have found a full suite of outcomes from positive through to negative and from great to very small. I find key in eval is to sit quietly for some time and listen to all kinds of my usual music preferences and live both consciously and also in unfocused ways for the changes to better appreciate them. Definitely having some effective benchmark to assess against and doing both particular as well as holistic assessment is important from my perspective. Also having a budget conscious approach makes things easier in many ways. I find it easier to rule out the things that I can’t afford

Both accumulative and enmeshed changes can come out of these mods so assessment of them tends be very particular but then needs to be viewed also as in terms of summative evaluation and also reflect holistic outcomes… so for me not just do I prefer them in or out but also how has the implementation changed my experience of music and informed what I also listen to.

I do find investing all these many years trying a range of approaches helps us to zero in the compass and then understand our goals better as well.

Reason says to me though that a fuse designed to end it’s life to protect yours is a good investment. But if it’s primary function is essentially to be a sacrificial component so then making its life ending not be an crazily unaffordable one factors in for sure. Maybe part of the brief on this choice needs to be an area where we have compliance as a main goal along with affordability in operation and reasonable costs in life cycle. So for me I see $2800 to be wildly excessive here… but we are all here for our own learnin. To each their own and may the force (and the music) and the choice be always with us all.

I forgot to mention LOL...the other tweak I am doing is I am in the process of upgrading the tubes in my Canary Grand Reference Mono amps. I will be replacing the Golden Lion 300 tubes with Western Electric 300. I need 16 of them ughhhh and I think I might as well buy two more to try in my Lampi Pacific. I will private email you as for some reason it won't let me show photos of my system.

 

[the sound of Tao]

I forgot to mention LOL...the other tweak I am doing is I am in the process of upgrading the tubes in my Canary Grand Reference Mono amps. I will be replacing the Golden Lion 300 tubes with Western Electric 300. I need 16 of them ughhhh and I think I might as well buy two more to try in my Lampi Pacific. I will private email you as for some reason it won't let me show photos of my system.

Omg twin octets of WE300B, wow, looking forwards to hearing about how it goes.

 

[Argonaut]

So....Just what materials and manufacturing process turns a $150 QS fuse into an $2800 QS fuse ?

 

[Al M.]

So....Just what materials and manufacturing process turns a $150 QS fuse into an $2800 QS fuse ?

The choice of price.

 

[Argonaut]

The choice of price.

Perhaps the price of suggestion !

 

[bazelio]

So....Just what materials and manufacturing process turns a $150 QS fuse into an $2800 QS fuse ?

Voodoo magic. Witch doctors don't come cheap these days

 

[Barry2013]

There are a number of good reports on the QSA fuses and an active thread on Agon with mostly positive reactions.
I am hoping to have a home demo soon but am wondering if anybody on the forum has tried them.

 

[Willgolf]

There are a number of good reports on the QSA fuses and an active thread on Agon with mostly positive reactions.
I am hoping to have a home demo soon but am wondering if anybody on the forum has tried them.

As I stated above I have 4 QSA yellows that replaced SR orange. Better Clarity and more detail. After pasting with 1260 even more improvement.

 

[Barry2013]

As I stated above I have 4 QSA yellows that replaced SR orange. Better Clarity and more detail. After pasting with 1260 even more improvement.

Thank you very much.
That is helpful particularly as I was thinking I would try the yellow ones in my Vitus 030 amp and MD 109 tuner.
Will let you know how it goes

 

[GuillaumeB]

There are a number of good reports on the QSA fuses and an active thread on Agon with mostly positive reactions.
I am hoping to have a home demo soon but am wondering if anybody on the forum has tried them.

Hi Barry,

I’ve been experimenting with them in my system, so far only tried the 13A mains plug fuses but have also got some internal fuses on the way. To my ears the Light Blue easily beat the SR Orange and was a very decent upgrade. Then the Yellow took things up a notch or two especially in the lower midrange and bass department. Purple is incredibly impressive in a slightly different way but also builds on the Yellow. Just wonderful clarity overall and lower noise floor and new details start to appear in the soundstage. The scary thing is that there are many more levels to try!

Incidentally I also have the “Yellow” QSA double U.K. wall socket here, now that is going to be very interesting!

Cheers,

Guillaume

 

[matakana]

Hi Barry,

I’ve been experimenting with them in my system, so far only tried the 13A mains plug fuses but have also got some internal fuses on the way. To my ears the Light Blue easily beat the SR Orange and was a very decent upgrade. Then the Yellow took things up a notch or two especially in the lower midrange and bass department. Purple is incredibly impressive in a slightly different way but also builds on the Yellow. Just wonderful clarity overall and lower noise floor and new details start to appear in the soundstage. The scary thing is that there are many more levels to try!

Incidentally I also have the “Yellow” QSA double U.K. wall socket here, now that is going to be very interesting!

Cheers,

Guillaume

So are you going to Distribute them here in the UK. Thankyou.

 

[GuillaumeB]

So are you going to Distribute them here in the UK. Thankyou.

No, unfortunately a good friend of mine beat me to it!

Guillaume

 

[matakana]

No, unfortunately a good friend of mine beat me to it!

Guillaume

Are you able to advise who ? Thankyou.