Who is the best reviewer?

Hi there:

Just thought it might be fun to clear a few things up and set the record straight.....

First of all thank you Caesar and Myles for the kind words, they are always appreciated.

As for Gregadd, Kach and Albert Porter, normally the criticism would be laughed off but there is a bit of a backstory that the readers here are probably not aware of. Where should we begin? My good friends Gregadd, Kach and Rich Teer harken back to the MartinLogan forum days. Both Gregadd and Kach were banned from those forums when their arguments/discussions/whatever got childish and personal when they could not defend their position on a few topics, so I understand their grumpiness towards me.

I find the Albert Porter comment about "someone else admitting how bad I am" as laughable, because three years ago Albert was begging me for a chance to work at TONEAudio. I've still got the emails. We had countless hours of phone conversation, but after I did due diligence and did a little bit of background checking, it didn't make good sense to add Mr. Porter to our team. He's been crabby ever since and refuses to make eye contact with me at any of the shows. That's mature. A perfect example of his "professionalism" was the recent Montreal show. He came in the Burmester room taking pictures for Positive Feedback and almost walked into me before acknowledging my presence. I noticed after reading his "Show Coverage" (if you could call it that) included every room but Burmester. Really? Is this childish or what?

And our pal Rich Teer at Vinylphile actually went as far as to steal our website layout and early magazine issue layout for his little project. When I confronted him on this, he said I should "be flattered" that he copied what we'd done. Ironically, it was right at the time that we changed our format from the original square layout to be easier to read on the iPad. One of the best copyright attorneys in the US just happens to be a good friend and if we wanted to we could put Vinylphile out of business tomorrow, but that's bad karma. Jann Wenner at Rolling Stone wouldn't be so generous.

Last but not least, the Penaudio Serenades. If ever there was a transaction I wish never occurred it would be those speakers.

I purchased the Serenades from Penaudio after they had done some duty with Dan Wright of ModWright for some time. The speakers had taken some pretty severe blows before Dan got them and the cabinets were rough. I used them for the review, because we could clean up the cabinets in Photoshop and it didn't require another $10,000 pair of speakers from Europe. At the end of the review I bought the speakers at a highly discounted price - $2,000 because they were just going to trash them. After using the Serenades for three years it was time to move on and Penaudio was kind enough to sell me a fresh pair of cabinets for a reasonable price and I spent a weekend moving the drivers and crossovers to the new cabinets. Unfortunately, all the bouncing around in shipping had pretty much destroyed the crossovers and they came out of the cabinets in pieces. Another call to Penaudio, another check written for new crossovers and the speakers were reassembled, now looking perfect.

In the three years since the original Serenade, there had been some crossover modifications and the Serenades were now single wired as opposed to the original bi-wire configuration. Rather than wait again for new parts to arrive, I was told to just parallel the speaker connections to each set of binding posts. A few days listening verified that the speakers were up to snuff and off they went.

I've made it a point NOT to sell much gear on Audiogon, so we don't look like a clearinghouse for used audio gear, I took the speakers to my local used shop, Echo Audio. I have known Kurt Doslu for almost ten years and he has always been an excellent and overly fair businessman, btw. I now had $3000 in the speakers and Kurt offered to sell them for $3500 making a small profit for himself and me recovering my investment. Remember, these are $10,000 speakers new....

The fellow on AudioCircle who had his undies in a bundle was offered his money back twice from Kurt and from me personally. Both times he refused. I don't sell a lot of used hifi gear, but I have perfect feedback on ebay and audiogon. Anyone who has ever bought a piece of gear from me has always commented on the condition and the extra effort made in packing and shipping. Not to mention over 500 pieces of gear that have been reviewed in TONEAudio. In that period of time, two pieces of gear have been damaged and we have paid for the repairs both times, even when the mfr. insisted that we did not have to go to this length.

As for the snarky comments about the magazine, whatever. As my editor and good friend Ben Fong-Torres says, "If you aren't pissing someone off then you aren't doing your job." When I started the magazine, Lew Johnson told me that we'd be judged by the company we keep. As we enter our sixth year, I am very proud of both the people on the masthead and the companies that have chosen to support us with review gear and advertising dollars. Unlike any of the other online entities, we pay our writers, editors and other contributors pretty close to print magazine fees and the quality of our contributors is unmatched. With Steve Guttenberg, Ken Kessler and Jacob Heilbrunn from the audio world, and the rest of our staff harkening from Rolling Stone, The New York Times, The Chicago Tribune, The New Yorker.... I've got nothing to be ashamed of.

Our gear reviews are more straightforward and perhaps lacking in the prose of Art Dudley or a few other writers, but that was by design. If all we did was be another Stereophile clone, what would that serve? While I don't always agree with my competitors I certainly respect them. I still have the first issue of TAS and it was certainly a thrill to work for them for a year and be on the same masthead with the great Harry Pearson. I wrote about 700 gear reviews in the photography space before starting TONE for the likes of Macworld, CNet, The Robb Report and countless others, so I developed that style, trying to answer questions that a potential buyer would want answers for. Sure it's fun to hear what new car Ken has just driven or where Sam Tellig has recently been wine tasting, but does that tell you if a preamp has a good remote?

Again, that's not to criticize any of them. I've always enjoyed both of their columns and right behind HP, Sam Tellig has always been one of my favorite hifi writers. If you're looking to spend a big pile of your hard earned money on a piece of gear you should read EVERYTHING you can find. Between about six of us, hopefully, you'll have enough information to decide if said component is worth your time to seek it out. If we've helped you to make that process easier, then we've done our job. If not, then we haven't it's that simple.

Whether that clears anything up remains to be seen. But that's my side of the story and I'm sticking to it.

As for my favorite hifi writers? In no particular order, Harry Pearson, Corey Greenberg and Sam Tellig but I've been reading every hifi magazine I could get my hands on for the last 35 years and I've enjoyed them all - and I've learned a little something from them all.
 
I don't have much to say after that. It's a helluva first post! I see more and more people come on here and register so they could defend, air out dirty laundry or whatever, and then you don't see them any more...

Back on topic... I always love reading Chip Stern. His emails are even more eloquent!
 
And our pal Rich Teer at Vinylphile actually went as far as to steal our website layout and early magazine issue layout for his little project. When I confronted him on this, he said I should "be flattered" that he copied what we'd done. Ironically, it was right at the time that we changed our format from the original square layout to be easier to read on the iPad. One of the best copyright attorneys in the US just happens to be a good friend and if we wanted to we could put Vinylphile out of business tomorrow, but that's bad karma. Jann Wenner at Rolling Stone wouldn't be so generous.

I personally find the inclusion of this paragraph in your first post most distastefull. I will be cancelling my subscription.:mad:
 
I pay no attention to the so-called "reviewers" who have no technical background. A firm understanding of mathematics, physics, and engineering is a prerequisite for any sort of critical work of this kind. Unfortunately the vast majority just write florid essays which can in no way be verifiable or falsifiable. Tales of corruption run rife. I understand, for example, that a certain high-profile reviewer has a long-time understanding with a dealership in the same state, whereby the dealership has been providing him with escorts in exchange for favorable reviews. Without mentioning any names, has anyone else heard these rumors?
 
Haven't heard that one, but if your qualifications apply, then no one in the hifi world is qualified to write about it.
 
I personally find the inclusion of this paragraph in your first post most distastefull. I will be cancelling my subscription.:mad:



And this is why I haven't really spent any time here. Seeing the same six guys that I've had plenty of heated discussions with on other forums is really just a waste
of time for the people that do want to hang out here and have some fun. It's really a disservice to you. I don't have enough time in the day as it is, but I felt it
was important to respond to the initial criticism.

And John, I'd love to see how thrilled you'd be if someone made an attempt to copy something that you'd spent thousands of dollars and hours of your life on.
I'm guessing you wouldn't be so happy about it either.

Rich Teer started asking me questions about starting a magazine almost a year before he started Vinylphile and I was always courteous enough to answer his
questions. When he came here on the guise of listening to my system, he pretty much listened to music for five minutes and spent the rest of the time asking
me questions about TONE, even to the point of how to get advertising dollars in the door. Actually, when we took he and his wife to dinner (and I picked up the tab)
he kept trying to throw the conversation back to advertising and how he could get it for his then unproduced publication - to the point that it became rather uncomfortable.

I've had similar conversations with Chris Connaker at Computer Audiophile, but he did not copy what we were doing at TONE, and I have gone out of my way
to help him establish relationships with hifi companies as well as suggest to our advertisers that they should work with him because he has a unique product.

So again, criticize all you want, but do your homework first. You are completely out of line on this one.
 
And this is why I haven't really spent any time here. Seeing the same six guys that I've had plenty of heated discussions with on other forums is really just a waste
of time for the people that do want to hang out here and have some fun. It's really a disservice to you. I don't have enough time in the day as it is, but I felt it
was important to respond to the initial criticism.

And John, I'd love to see how thrilled you'd be if someone made an attempt to copy something that you'd spent thousands of dollars and hours of your life on.
I'm guessing you wouldn't be so happy about it either.

Rich Teer started asking me questions about starting a magazine almost a year before he started Vinylphile and I was always courteous enough to answer his
questions. When he came here on the guise of listening to my system, he pretty much listened to music for five minutes and spent the rest of the time asking
me questions about TONE, even to the point of how to get advertising dollars in the door. Actually, when we took he and his wife to dinner (and I picked up the tab)
he kept trying to throw the conversation back to advertising and how he could get it for his then unproduced publication - to the point that it became rather uncomfortable.

I've had similar conversations with Chris Connaker at Computer Audiophile, but he did not copy what we were doing at TONE, and I have gone out of my way
to help him establish relationships with hifi companies as well as suggest to our advertisers that they should work with him because he has a unique product.

So again, criticize all you want, but do your homework first. You are completely out of line on this one.

Thank you for filling me in on the "facts", but quite frankly that doesn't change my mind, and I certainly don't think I am out of line.

If you have an issue with Rich Teer and Vinylphile then take it up with him/them, as opposed to publicly trashing a member in good standing here ( although i haven't seen him post in a while). Opining about what you could do shows bad form. I would have expected more from an established publication.
 
I'll say no more on the matter and just agree to disagree.
 
Haven't heard that one, but if your qualifications apply, then no one in the hifi world is qualified to write about it.
This is refreshingly frank, but I wouldn't go as far. All things considered, reviewers and their respective public deserve one another.
 
This is refreshingly frank, but I wouldn't go as far. All things considered, reviewers and their respective public deserve one another.

Being one of the members of "their respective public" I can assure you I do not care a dime about these conflicts. The only thing I am worried is that some people who systematically take positions against the high-end industry can use it to denigrate our hobby. :rolleyes:

BTW, many great inventors and people we consider highly in science had terrible personal conflicts concerning their research, many ending in court. But it did not affect the validity of their work in the long term.
 
Today most reviewers are spending their time prostrate to the manufacturer and their "greatness". The more expensive the product, the better the review, or so it seems. And there are no comparisons between products to show the relative strengths and weaknesses between the products. The arguments are simple - big price = great product, "great reviewer" = great product - while overlooking weaknesses and tradeoffs. The readers are supposed to spend time prostrate to the great reviewers.

http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showt...ll-you-PD-MPS-5-vs.-Boulder-1021-vs.-Scaratti


Still looking for a reviewer with brutal honesty of a Simon Cowell or a Mary Cariillo: someone who honestly calls things great when they are, but has the cojones to call things **** poor when the product does not perform - even at the expense of a relationship.

But when just about any reviewer can get the $$,$$$$ priced product for the price a consumer pays for the Bose Wave Radio (and some like Valin get to keep $40K ARC amps and $60-$90K Magicos for FREE, FOREVER - just for writing sweet words every other month and calling the brands Best of Show), how can you trust these guys?
 
Most clowns who read stereophile and hi-fi+ without their own auditioning would choose the Ayre. But what if the Ayre is really not their flavor? Nice compare / contrasts of product strengths and weaknesses in this reviewer to broaden auditioning choices for the readers:

http://positive-feedback.com/Issue55/belcanto_dac.htm


We definitely need more of that!
 
Comparing Newton and Leibniz to Kessler and Pearson?!? Nothing could be further from my mind.

Please do not manipulate my intentions! :( I was referring to disputes, not to the persons involved.

The only thing in common with these two groups of people (reviewers and scientists) are the flamed disputes they managed and I hope other readers understood it. To be more specific, I wanted to say that unhappily dirty disputes happen anywhere and should not be used to denigrate the hobby.
 
I have basically stopped reading reviews, and the only time I really consider it is when I'm tying to decide on a purchase. Having said that, I still prefer to seek out the opinions of the "general public" (which is all of us) and weigh the reviews read accordingly. I find, and I think this was mentioned earlier, that there really aren't many reviews worth their weight, as they tend to be mostly complimentary. This may sound crazy, but I'd much prefer to get some data on units sold and any percentage of returns or repairs that have taken place. How good is their customer service? You get the picture.
 
The Big Picture, a.k.a. the absolute sound, chapter 912,238

The experience of live music is so compelling, and its sonic and emotional characteristics are so clear, that, relatively speaking, it's pretty easy to describe how an electronic product sounds in comparison. The word "less" comes up a lot. :)

It often crosses my mind that many reviewers are used to a kind of sonic mediocrity, as are almost all consumers (ear buds, anyone?) which makes identifying and communicating what is what something of a murky business. Those reviewers who say that cables don't matter, or MP3s sound great on $5K DACs, well, they're not delusional or deceptive, and although clearly wrong, they're simply honestly reporting their personal experience: It sounds OK to me. And if you, as a reader, are cut from the same cloth, you'll be satisfied, but you won't learn very much.

HP championed the obvious but then-unfashionable idea of comparing gear to a non-electronic-engineering reference, namely his notion of "the" absolute sound, meaning in this case, "real" music. Overall, this has proven to be a useful and beneficial approach. There are many benefits to having a well-defined subjective, descriptive, experiental vocabulary and taxonomy, as well as a few limitations inherent in the practice of the sound-recording process.

Many of us here have studied all the physics, signal processing and senory physiology that one could stand as undergraduate and graduate students, and some of us have had long and interesting careers exploiting this knowledge for commercial purposes.

However, I don't believe this kind of education is a requirement or even desirable for becoming an excellent reviewer. In fact, it's usally a source of confusion. HP mentions from time to time that he was an environmental news reporter when he started TAS, and his not knowing much about the "laws of phyics" has not been a disadvantage. We've all heard our friends proclaiming that the "laws of physics tell us" something or other, which of course they usually don't. But the "laws of" deal really means, I don't understand, which, of course, is the essential starting point for learning.

If, as a reviewer, one has access to lots of live music, along with OK, good, really good and over-the-top gear, especially the latter, then it's relatively easy, or at least easier, to help readers understand where the device being reviewed fits in to the overall scheme of things. Then one can delve into the very real and important underlying science and engineering (e.g., phase noise) to help explain on an electronic level why one product may sound differently from another. You'll be on safe ground and will be informing readers in a competent manner.

And it also seems to me that, over time, efficient markets cause (the surviving) products to clump up at various price levels... there are the OK for some purposes $500 DACs, the more broadly useful $1500 DACs, the few compromises $5000 DACs, the specialized $15-20K DACs, and so forth, which correspond to not-too-bad, pretty good, really good and best. A few products are out of line (in both good and bad ways) with the price-performance curve, but not many.

And in addition, there are products such as the over-the-top GTE-Trinity DACs, at $70K, are in an alternate universe in terms of sound quality, sort of like the experience in the concert hall compares to (almost) anything one could hear in the home. Such truly reference products make it easy to differentiate everything else. And again, the word "less" comes up often.

Music is that form of sensory experience that takes us beyond the senses and invites us to walk along the mundane edges of the limitless. Start at the top, meaning the reality of music, and work back.
 

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