Wilson Audio Chronosonic XVX First Impressions

I just spent over six hours today listening to my friend's new Wilson Audio Chronosonic XVX loudspeakers. Consistent with being blown away by the Master Chronosonic + Master Subsonic system at Maier Shadi's demo in Santa Monica, and consistent with a couple of reports by people who auditioned at Maier's both the Master Chronosonic and later the XVX and preferred the XVX, I am here to report officially that I think the XVX is now my favorite conventional cone driver speaker system. I think I prefer the XVX even to my longtime favorite dynamic driver loudspeaker, the mighty Rockport Arrakis.

Prior to the XVX, my friend had the Alexx. The height alone of the XVX over the Alexx affords the system the height and scale and grandeur I always notice and appreciate from very tall loudspeakers.

I don't know why the XVX is an order of magnitude better -- next level better -- than the Alexx. But I am certain that it is.

I think the XVX is the first dynamic driver speaker of which I was very aware that you can hear seemingly almost everything at fairly low listening volumes. It doesn't need to be played loudly to be heard comfortably.

In much the same way that people like to applaud their digital playback systems by saying "it sounds like analog," dynamic driver loudspeaker aficionados like to say their cone speakers have "electrostatic-like transparency." Believe me, if most dynamic driver speakers had "electrostatic-like transparency" we would not need electrostatic speakers.

As somebody who loves electrostatic speakers I have always been aware that speakers of other topologies are one or two steps less transparent than electrostatic speakers. I feel like the XVX truly has "electrostatic-like transparency" -- at least credibly so, and more so than any other cone speaker I've ever heard.

Just like I felt about the Master Chronosonic the XVX gives one the sense of unlimited dynamic capability. There is a limitlessness and an effortlessness to the sound that I do not hear from other box speakers. Other heroically inert box speakers sound tightly wrapped or button-downed by comparison -- like some portion of the sound is trapped in the box and having trouble freeing itself. The XVX sounds open somehow -- a sonic presentation I associate with planar speakers, not with big box speakers.

I know, I know, I know. I am thinking and saying the same things you are: these are meaningless statements as you can't compare loudspeakers in different systems from fault-prone memory; you will never be able to hear an XVX versus a Rockport Arrakis, or an XVX versus a VSA Ultra 11, in the same room with the same associated components at the same time, etc., etc. I know, and I agree with you.

All I am saying is that if you put a gun to my head and told me I had to buy a dynamic driver loudspeaker system for my personal system and cost was not a factor. . . I would say take the gun away from my head. Then I would tell you I will order XVX + Master Subsonics.

Without intending to be coy, I couch this is terms of "the XVX is the box speaker I would I buy if I had to buy a box speaker for myself" rather than "the XVX is the best box speaker I've ever heard," because I cannot hear the Von Schweikert Audio Ultra 11 and the Evolution Acoustics MM7 and the Rockport Arrakis and the YG XV in the same room in the same system as the XVX + Subsonics. So it just does not make any sense to declare, and it is analytically defective to declare, that the XVX is the best speaker I have ever heard.

My view that if I had to buy a box speaker I would buy the XVX + Subsonics is a combination of what I heard from the XVX, what I vaguely remember from hearing these other other speakers in other systems, and my slight prejudice against ceramic drivers which I would be worried I might find uncomfortable over a long period of time. (I would worry the same about beryllium drivers and about diamond encrusted drivers.)

I have owned only planar loudspeakers my entire life. I literally couldn't bear to listen to Wilson Audio speakers with metal dome tweeters. I have never been a big fan of Wilson Audio speakers in general. But I thought I heard magic from Maier's demo of the Master Chronosonic, and my experience today proves that that inkling was correct.

I don't know how or what Daryl Wilson did to achieve it, but I am reporting that to my ears the XVX is a very, very special speaker. It is a stunning achievement in dynamic driver loudspeaker design specifically, and in loudspeaker design in general.

PS: Assuming they physically fit in Michael Fremer's listening room, I have no doubt that Michael will upgrade his Alexx to XVX. He might go in not wanting to upgrade, but after hearing these there is no way he's going to be happy without the XVX.

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A video about the JS Audio Chronosonic XVX/Boulder system. As he says, effortless.
Nice review .
He also stated that the XVX s alone dont go that deep .( like i thought )

Ps i guess when in need for some real power probably not much beats Boulder
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Great pride of ownership as well with Boulder ( audio jewelry)
 
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Nice review .
He also stated that the XVX s alone dont go that deep .( like i thought )

Ps i guess when in need for some real power probably not much beats Boulder
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Great pride of ownership as well with Boulder ( audio jewelry)
I get 20Hz with the XVX. Not sure why you thought what you thought but you thought wrong.
 
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I get 20Hz with the XVX. Not sure why you thought what you thought but you thought wrong.
Yes, if you read Martin Colloms' Sept 2021 review...he is a meticulous reviewer who measures as much as he listens...he was not only categorical in his praise of the XVX including its remarkable bass, but he measured sub-20hz in-room during his review. Below is the quotation from his review:

"Giving the design the benefit of the argument in this modest ‘test room’, I obtained a frequency response of 18Hz to 21kHz +/- 4dB overall, a very wide bandwidth for this spatial average room-driven output."
 
Sorry to be a curmudgeon but I urge caution when it comes to reviews by British journalists of anything distributed by Absolute Sounds. IMO they, and Colloms is by no means alone ( a certain double K wins hands down) , tend to be somewhat over enthusiastic when reviewing their brands. Again just my opinion ( borne out by reading years of hifi news et al etc reviews )

In not dissing Colloms measurements which I have no doubt are accurate. But I do doubt their overall relevance in regards listening experiences. Yet to hear a test bench make music.
 
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Yes, if you read Martin Colloms' Sept 2021 review...he is a meticulous reviewer who measures as much as he listens...he was not only categorical in his praise of the XVX including its remarkable bass, but he measured sub-20hz in-room during his review. Below is the quotation from his review:

"Giving the design the benefit of the argument in this modest ‘test room’, I obtained a frequency response of 18Hz to 21kHz +/- 4dB overall, a very wide bandwidth for this spatial average room-driven output."
Even vehement Wilson haters who visit would gladly empty their wallets could they afford these after hearing them in my room which looks way too small to accommodate these very large speakers yet they work incredibly well especially on bottom, which "looks" would tell you is unlikely.
 
Sorry to be a curmudgeon but I urge caution when it comes to reviews by British journalists of anything distributed by Absolute Sounds. IMO they, and Colloms is by no means alone ( a certain double K wins hands down) , tend to be somewhat over enthusiastic when reviewing their brands. Again just my opinion ( borne out by reading years of hifi news et al etc reviews )

In not dissing Colloms measurements which I have no doubt are accurate. But I do doubt their overall relevance in regards listening experiences. Yet to hear a test bench make music.
Oh and I forgot to say. I’m an ex Absolute Sounds dealer
 
Sorry to be a curmudgeon but I urge caution when it comes to reviews by British journalists of anything distributed by Absolute Sounds. IMO they, and Colloms is by no means alone ( a certain double K wins hands down) , tend to be somewhat over enthusiastic when reviewing their brands. Again just my opinion ( borne out by reading years of hifi news et al etc reviews )

In not dissing Colloms measurements which I have no doubt are accurate. But I do doubt their overall relevance in regards listening experiences. Yet to hear a test bench make music.
In this case you have Colloms measurements unless you think he's "cheating" there, you have Atkinsons measurements (ok he's an ex-pat Brit) and you have my review and Harley's comments in TAS. We are all on the same page....rare
 
In this case you have Colloms measurements unless you think he's "cheating" there, you have Atkinsons measurements (ok he's an ex-pat Brit) and you have my review and Harley's comments in TAS. We are all on the same page....rare
I quite clearly said I’m not dissing his measurements. My comments still stand re British reviewers of Absolute Sounds distributed brands.
 
Ah i saw m collums stated - 4 db 18 hz .


First of all its not easy to measure bass in a room.
Because the graph is all over the place minus 400 hz due to room
influences .
I remember J atkinson always drew a " average response line"
He basically drew a line which supposedly corresponded somewhat with the actual bass response
Plus assuming where wilson gets their parts from and having seen those graphs .
Im quit sure their not gonna make a 20 hz tone in phase at - 4 db .
But i ll have a listen next year in munich and i ll post what i think.
 
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I quite clearly said I’m not dissing his measurements. My comments still stand re British reviewers of Absolute Sounds distributed brands.
I'm well aware of the goings on....that said, these speakers (which I purchased) are as described by reviewers Harley, Collums, me and others.
 
Ah i saw m collumns stated - 4 db 18 hz .


First of all its not easy to measure bass in a room
Plus assuming (knowing )where wilson gets their parts from and having seen those graphs .
Im quit sure their not gonna make a 20 hz tone in phase at - 4 db .
But i ll have a listen next year in munich and i ll post what i think
You are welcome to hear them in a real room in NJ. Making speaker judgement in MOC is ridiculous.
 
You are welcome to hear them in a real room in NJ. Making speaker judgement in MOC is ridiculous.
Thats very gracious of you .
But its a little far away for me unfortunately .
I m afraid munchen will have to do .
Having heard a peter mcgrath demo im quote sure wilson will do all it can to provide a good demo.
 
MF I’m in NYC and vaccinated if there is a time when a mere mortal could hear it. Always loved the original WAMM and would love to hear the latest incarnation, especially with your updated electrical grid. BTW I’m running my whole system off a Niagara 7000 to very good effect.
 
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Sorry to be a curmudgeon but I urge caution when it comes to reviews by British journalists of anything distributed by Absolute Sounds. IMO they, and Colloms is by no means alone ( a certain double K wins hands down) , tend to be somewhat over enthusiastic when reviewing their brands. Again just my opinion ( borne out by reading years of hifi news et al etc reviews )

In not dissing Colloms measurements which I have no doubt are accurate. But I do doubt their overall relevance in regards listening experiences. Yet to hear a test bench make music.
Totally disagree with your comments about Martin Colloms. Have had private communications with Martin for several years.
 
I quite clearly said I’m not dissing his measurements. My comments still stand re British reviewers of Absolute Sounds distributed brands.
Yeah, it would be nice to read new reviewers opinions outside the same 3 guys for big Wilson’s (Colloms, Fremer, Mickleson) who quite frankly have given the same reviews for decades. Nothing wrong with loving a brand but it would be far more interesting to bring in fresh blood.
 
Below is the in room XVX response in red measured by JA .
based on this graph one could state the XVX is 0 db down at 16 hz .

XVX    RED Line .gifI also post a graph i measured of my own designs
Based on that i could state mine are 0 db down at 14 hz , but i would never do that because the free air resonant freq FS of the woofer is 19 hz .
I estimate mine are about 3 db down at 20 hz based on expirience , i cannot see how i ( or anyone for that matter )can take that absolutely accurately from a in room response graph
Freq.  response XPE speaker.jpg
 
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Sorry to be a curmudgeon but I urge caution when it comes to reviews by British journalists of anything distributed by Absolute Sounds. IMO they, and Colloms is by no means alone ( a certain double K wins hands down) , tend to be somewhat over enthusiastic when reviewing their brands. Again just my opinion ( borne out by reading years of hifi news et al etc reviews )

In not dissing Colloms measurements which I have no doubt are accurate. But I do doubt their overall relevance in regards listening experiences. Yet to hear a test bench make music.
Having heard first-hand the owner of Absolute Sounds wax lyrical about MC's purchase of a pair of S5's I have no doubt there is an element of hand in glove going on.

For the record, I like MC's reviews and subscribe to Hifi Critic, and have had a number of conversations with him over the years but am always aware of the potential conflicts of interest that exist in the rather claustrophobic environment of UK hifi!
 
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Below is the in room XVX response in red measured by JA .
based on this graph one could state the XVX is 0 db down at 16 hz .

View attachment 83602I also post a graph i measured of my own designs
Based on that i could state mine are 0 db down at 14 hz , but i would never do that because the free air resonant freq FS of the woofer is 19 hz .
I estimate mine are about 3 db down at 20 hz based on expirience , i cannot see how i ( or anyone for that matter )can take that absolutely accurately from a in room response graph
View attachment 83604
Couldn't you also say that if the bass region is up 10db, you could be at 0 down at 16Hz?
What would a system with such elevated bass will sound like?
 

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